If this is the monthly newspaper of Sinn Fein "Who apparently support The Good Friday Agreement" why do you quote it (SAOIRSE) at the bottom of your statements. Apparently you dont support The Good Friday Agreement, I Quote from your last message "The fact of the matter is that EVERYTHING about the "GOOD FRIDAY AGREEMENT" was a joke"

It apears you dont support the "Sinn Feinn" position who support the agreement. So why do you quote (SAOIRSE) when you dont agree with their position!! (please answer this one at least)

I also quote ". What about voting rights? Do you think its fair that each Protestant counts as a single vote while each Catholic "family" counts as a single vote" - A stetement you made!!!

How many years are you going back!! That is not the case now!!
One Man One Vote - And well you fucking know it patrick. Dont take me for some thicko!! Are you trying to get some brownie points with those who arent so well educated on the subject!

I quote from kate "No doubt many brave Irishmen did indeed fight against the Nazis in an "American Uniform". Also, I can assure you, these brave man were/are honored as war heroes" (I say - "they darent have dared fight in an irish uniform")

Thank you kate. you're right. But it wasnt the republican ireland who honoured them "it is the americans and british who remember them" i myself remember them EVERY rememberence sunday. And dont forget it was the IRA who killed 14 people who tried to remember them in enniskillen, or was it more?. (was this justified) And before you even say it Patrick No i dont suppot what happened on bloody sunday! (It was wrong)

What i tried to comprimise with you patrick was that there has to be give and take on both sides. I Quote Again- "The British have NOT kept up THEIR "promises"
FACT: There used to be 109 British Army Bases in N.Ireland, there are now 43.
FACT: There is now equal opertunities
FACT: The British Military in Ireland IS going away!
BULLSHIT Patrick "we are keeping our promises" Do your study!
What have the IRA given? ill tell you! not a fucking inch.

SO WHY CANT THE IRA BEGIN DISARMING ? !!!!

Its because they never want to disarm! and they never will.

It appears to me you support the IRA Patrick. At least i'll go to my grave saying i never supported any IRA, UVF, INLA, or UFF terroist organisations. Theyre ALL Murdering Bastards. May you meet your maker some day and explain why you support them!.
peacemaker
Written by Patrick. (06/03-2003)
The fact of the matter is that EVERYTHING about the "GOOD FRIDAY AGREEMENT" was a joke. This is where YOU are mistaken.... The British have NOT kept up THEIR "promises". That is why the IRA has re-instated their original goal. The cease fire is no longer. Now, why would any NATIVE (republican) of Ireland lay to rest our arms and show "good will" to a government that has oppressed us and continues to do so? To live in Ireland and "claim" to be British is like asking me if I would just shoot you. What about voting rights? Do you think its fair that each Protestant counts as a single vote while each Catholic "family" counts as a single vote? Stop avoiding MY question.... What do you think the REAL fighting in Ireland is all about?

SAOIRSE!
CHAMPIONS
Written by UVF. (06/03-2003)
WHOS THE CHAMPIONS NOW, SCUM?
4 DAYS TILL RANGERS ARE CHAMPIONS
Different war...
Written by Charlotte Verified user. (06/03-2003)
I guess Bush doesn't give a f*ck what the rest of the world think. This war will be. Yet, it will be without the French.

Slan go foill

I'd certainly fight, politically at least, for the Irish freedom, but I'd never fight in that unfair war...
UUUU remember? The Unwilling, led by the Unqualified, doing the Unecessary for the Ungrateful...
Republicans Disarming
Written by Groucho. (06/03-2003)
I sure wish OUR Republicans would disarm. But George W. really likes his war-toys a lot. He's sent 60,000 more troops over to the Gulf to be his playmates.
Cate
Written by Charlotte Verified user. (06/03-2003)
Cate, you are the voice of Reason...

Slan go foill
Peacemaker
Written by Cate. (06/03-2003)
<<Dont forget that America, Britain and the rest of europe helped fight the nazis while you coward fucks sat on your asses.>>

The fact is many Irishmen had emigrated to the US before America, Britain, and the rest of Europe fought the Nazis. No doubt many brave Irishmen did indeed fight against the Nazis in an "American Uniform". Also, I can assure you, these brave man were/are honored as war heroes.

<<Ive come to the conclusion from reading this site that all you tossers care about is being anti-british. >>

I am not anti-British. I have British/English, Protestant/Catholic friends. I am, however, against a country being held down by foreign rule when it is clearly the wishes of the people to be self-governed, and to be entitled to their culture, language, and freedom.

I agree, there will need to be compromise among the Irish people. But there will be no compromise regarding the occupation of Ireland by Britain. After some 800 years this has not worked, and it will never work. It is time for the British influence to leave.

I do not relish violence, but there are instances when the line is crossed and it becomes necessary to defend one's life and that of one's family. I have never held a gun to another human being, but threaten my family or my self-determination, and I am afraid I would become a "quick study".

SAOIRSE!
ok lets comprimise
Written by peacemaker. (06/03-2003)
its seems patrick we are getting nowhere with all this. ill put forward an idea. You talk of all the towers and cameras. it seems to me that the british are giving some of what you want. There is dismantleing of towers happening, the police is changing, the british army presence is diminishing, there are 50/50 human rights legislations, there are equal opertunities and i do accept that some day there will probably be a united ireland. If all these concessions are being granted why wont republicans disarm and show some goodwill to the process. dont you agree this is all going one way? Lets face it. If the republicans dont get everything their own way the private army will be called upon again. There has to be some comprimise! It would be very hard for the British government to go back on any promises if the republicans disarmed. And why are Sinn Fein so worried about sanctions being imposed if they go against any agreement that might be made this week. Ill tell you why! the british will keep their part of the deal and are'nt worried about sanctions. The Sinn Feiners dont intend to and never will keep their part of the bargain, thats why they're afraid of sanctions! Now can you reluctantly see why so many unionists dont trust republicans, they show no good will. I prey some day they will. Of course it cant be denied that britain invaded ireland, and attrocities have occured - but its not all one sided. the situation is that over half a million unionists live in this country and some of the concessions have to go their way as well! its called comprimise.
god bless the pope
Written by german celtic. (05/03-2003)
Gott beschütze den Papst!!!!!!
scheiß rangers, scheiß tommies!
Nice Site
Written by Mino Antunelli. (05/03-2003)
Nice site, from the webmaster of <a href="http://www.soluzionehome.it" Soluzione Home </a>
Religion? Who cares?
Written by Charlotte Verified user. (05/03-2003)
So here's to those great Protestant Men
Who gave their lives to free our land
All the people sang their praises then
For those brave United Irishmen

I don't think I have to comment on this. For those who want the full text, it's on this website and it's entitled "Protestant Men".

slan go foill
Peacewacker
Written by Patrick. (05/03-2003)
Let me get this straight. In one breath, you say that we dont honor the Irish that died fighting the nazis. In the next breath, you say that the Irish wouldnt fight the nazis. I would have to assume that the Irish during WWII were taking the same stand then as they are now. Its not their war, and its a senseless one. Besides, they have been busy fighting their own war for over 800 years. Speaking of which, What do you think the REAL fighting is all about in Ireland? If you say its about religion, I feel sorry for you. The fact that England used "divide and conquer" techniques to do her dirty work explains alot. As far as religion is concerned, It makes no difference to me if you are Catholic or Protestant. I personaly am a Protestant and my wife happens to be Catholic. It just doesnt matter. What matters is that the people of Ireland have been oppressed long enough. Its easy to look down your long nose at people from a part of the country that you didnt help steal and pontificate about how everything is fine and dandy even though the cameras arent looking into your home and the military isnt harrassing you at every chance. What the British are doing to Ireland has been and always will be an attrocity. We have just stopped trying to put up with the stench. Its time to flush the stink back to England. There are STILL snakes in Ireland. They all wear the British flag.

SAOIRSE!

U are
Very
Fucked
Three words explain it all...
Written by Charlotte Verified user. (05/03-2003)
Unity, Freedom and Peace...
No more, no less...
But yet, it can only be in this very order...

Slan go foill
Keith/Jimmy
Written by Keith. (05/03-2003)
Thats whats sad about it, probably be another 800 years unless people draw a line under it all.

This is 2003, and the world is about to see another bout of needless killings. Surely if not for the love of God, but for the sake of fellow man, somebody on your beautiful isle is strong enough to close the matter.

I hope so, for all you.

Regards
Keith
Keith
Written by Jimmy. (05/03-2003)
Well Keith iam sure if the British empire still controlled part of your country and did nothing but oppress your people for 800 years then you would have some hatred for them too.

Tiocdaidh ar la.

32 or WAR
A sad place
Written by Keith. (05/03-2003)
Stumbled across this site by accident looking for some lyrics. Must say, I never understood why both sides of the divide couldn't just bury the past (like you have buried the many innocents caught up in your troubles). Having read the messages posted on this site I now consider myself a little more educated in your problems, and more importantly, the reason why your troubles are so far from being resolved. You have too many people that are fired with hatred and cannot draw any common ground. The majority in the north want one thing, the south the other. You can't resolve your differences through fighting, nor through politics.

Put it behind you for the sake of your children. Live with what you have.

Now I will piss off as one or two of you will be wishing, and stop intefering where I don't belong! Your lives boys and girlsw, not mine.

Enjoy
One Question
Written by Shay. (04/03-2003)
One Question For People In the Republic-

If the REPUBLIC was still under British Rule, Wouldent you fight for your freedom?

Same deal in the north people!

"True Peace Is Not In The Absence Of Violence But In the Presence Of Justice"

SAOIRSE.
talking about majority...
Written by Charlotte Verified user. (04/03-2003)
First point :
Majority in Ireland, whole Ireland, want it to be free and united.
Second point :
Want to get a majority up the North ? Alright. Just wait and see. Another 30 years should be enough...

The world was shocked when the Iron B*tch let people die in jail : that was not democracy.
The world was shocked when hearing about the internment : that was not democracy.
The world is shocked when some Orange men want to march through districts they're not wanted in just to provoke : that is not democracy.

Britain was admired here by Voltaire himself. If he had got to know all that, he would have had to write again all his books mentionning you.

Slan go foill
youve got a point peacemaker
Written by connor. (04/03-2003)
in some ways youre right, im irish and im glad i didnt live when priests and nuns had such a grip on us. i cant wait until ireland is united but i also agree it should only be when a majority up north want it, and youre right again when you say the IRA get too much support in the republic, and i can assure you i will never vote for jerry or martin, being a christian id never put murderers in government with their private army. And how many protestant/british friends do you have patrick?
Stop avoiding my questions patrick
Written by peacemaker. (04/03-2003)
sorry patrick, you still havent answered many of my questions, like why the irish didnt help the rest of the world fight the nazis. see, your still so caught up in the anti british thing. im not going to lie about being unionist and believe it or not i really dont hate irish people. i have lots of catholic/irish friends, how many british/protestant friends do you have? what i hate is the fact that so many republicans live the high life using our institutions and benefits. dont forget the irish parliament basically mirror any legislation the british write. first england have legislation, then n.ireland, scottland and wales. And guess what happens then. Thats right, the good old irish copy it, guess that saves youse billions in formulating any good ideas of your own. like i said i dont hate the irish people, but some of the ideas that have been institutionalised in youse are so fucking backward. And lets face it, the republic has been so backward untill recent years, the chappel has had such a grip on youse for years only now are you realising you dont need priests and nuns to be saved, and the very priests and nuns you worshiped for so long have been shamed with numerous scandals. And why does the IRA get so much support down there. If all they did was blow up soldiers and police you could say theyre fighting a war, but they purposely target the innocent also. And i do realise loyalist paramilitaries target the innocent too, but do the british people support them the way the IRA gets support from the irish. I think not. !!!!!!! if you can prove me wrong on any of the points ive made here, id like to hear it! and i draw you to the point my friend paddy has made below, when majority in the north want united ireland, so be it, so until then fuck up!! if you love ireland so much dont come up here.

P.S. Jerry and Marty are murderers, some fucking people youse vote for!!
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