I think around 4 of the 5 last presidents were all "Skull and Bones" (Clinton, Bush 1, etc...) and a tremendous amount of secretaries and advisors... I read somewhere, can't recall where exactly...
Skull and Bones wants World Supremacy and it is known that they think it good to start a war once in a while... Just for the glory... And all kind of other bullshit...
Well, Bush had NO real reasons to attack Irak, did he? WMD? We've all seen what a laugh that was... A laugh with the American people, which is obviously not even conscious that it is laughed with, taken for fool by its own president nota bene!

you know it's easy to look at all of the bad things people have done, why don't y'all be a lil more optimistic, and another thing, i'm sure you countries are fucking perfect, worry about your own country before you rip on others, shit, it's not your problem.

It IS, norcal!
when you see the influence the USA have on the rest of the world, you should realize that it better be a GOOD influence rather than a bad one, which is the case right now, with bush starting the iraq war and obviously looking for more trouble in NK or iran...
sure no country is perfect,not my germany, not your USA, not sean's russia...but if you have resonsibility to the world community you can't be a stupid moron like bush is...

GGF, Do you believe in 'the balance'? For every 'Good", there is 'Evil'? For every 'Right', there is 'Wrong'? It seems like the world is heading for a showdown. Bush,(and idiots that support him) should be seen for what they really are. Mindless puppets.

Patrick, if Bush and his fellowmen are the evil, who are the good guys???

Well, GermanGlenfiddich made a VERY good and REALISTIC point there...

It's all about influence... You speak about my own country. That's Belgium, and I'm absolutely sure my little (also imperfect) country hasn't even 1/1000 of the influence, power etc. the USA have... The USA are the only real remaining superpower in the world... What happens in the USA or what the USA does affects the WHOLE world... Example: Look at economy affairs; Whenever Greenspan puts interest rates higher or lower: It affects the whole world: How many countries work with the dollar, how many countries have their currency related to the dollar?

You tell me to mind my own country's business... Well, I'd rather prefer you to advise that to George W. Bush!

It's not my problem? As a concerned world-citizen I DO care about this planet...
Would you tell that to an Iraqi to? Would be quite hilarious...

if god is with us who might be against us?

and yeah, patrick, i believe in a perpetual balance in the world we live in. for every light there is a shadow and for every black a white...we could discuss that in another topic..how about "Your View on the world and it's inhibitants" as totpic title?

Fianos, That is a good question. Our Government is SO corrupt, It is hard to tell who the 'Good' are. But its Obvious who the 'Bad' are. I just find it hard to beleive that anyone can actually back Bush after what he has done to this country and the entire world in the last 4 years. Whether people realize it or not, his father, George Bush Sr. had done the same thing. He started the Gulf war and drove the economy down in this country. I just wish the American people would WAKE UP!!!
GGF, That does indeed sound like a good topic to start. Be my guest.

Cousin Sean,
Thank you for your support Could you see ME as President? I am sorry, but I couldnt be 'Commander in Chief' because there isnt enough Guiness in Washington DC to support the Prez(me) and the Vice-Prez(Bjorn) AND the SECRETARY OF DEFENSE(that would be YOU) and all of our other cabinet members.
Besides, I would be assasinated for my beliefs in a Government "Of the people, By the people, and For the people"(as written in our own Constitution)

Dear mr. President Patrick!

1. As a minister of Defence I promise you that assasins will be terminated before they will get idea to hurt anybody.

2. The question of Guinness can be fixed easily - are you President or WHAT?

3. Let me recomend Roidsear as a minister of Culture and Werewolf as a new CIA Chief.

yeah, Patrick for president!
we let us all grow large ears, rename america to Tir Tairngire, and practice some magic...

uhm... Im too much in RPG...

Fionas, forget RPG! Warhammer rules!!!

Warhammer... hm... ok...

Go raibh maith agat for the minister proposal... hehe...
Well, as a cultural minister I would propagate Guinness as a national drink...
...thus the Guinness support to Washington D.C. should be secured.

And Werewolf for CIA... ok...

That would make Cate First lady
I would recommend Charlotte as 'Secretary of Education' and Noel and Fianna as 'Ambassadors of Ireland'.
Guiness would be under NEW management (Christophe Inc.)
There are many more cabinet openings.... any ideas?

Any ideas for Lanka?

we make a gigantic forest out of amerika, and then we live in peace with the nature...

and we need a submarine-armada...

Fionas, where do you get such a tasty joints?

grow a forest ,grow bears,don't wash ourselves anymore and go hunting and fishing every day, sitting down in front of a campfire every evening drinking guinness and kilkenny,strongbow and glenfiddich, chilled by a pure mountain river, roasting the enormous wild boar we killed with just our hands that day, singing songs with our women on our laps...see, that's my application for secretary of wildlife and nature...

I'm in!

I would -of course- be a great CEO in the Guiness-business as a Belgian and I must say I have "some"experience with the beverage(s). All that experience!
I'd distribute it freely to everybody! It'll make people happier!

Charlotte secretary education? She'll probably have a huge job in the USA!
Of course: Don't forget to give her also the French kissing and other love topics!
I'm sure she'll do a great job!

Sean Secretary of Defense?! Dear oh dear, Rumsfeld will appear a mister nobody in comparison!


As CEO of the Guiness company I would -of course- heavily support your campaigns!

hey sean, that was a serious opinion

why not make a huge forest and put beautiful russian harp-player girls into it

Fionas, Christophe will be unable to support both Washington DC and a forest. Girls will not go there without Unca Arthur's Stuff... and without beautiful russian harp-player with balaklava.

It never ceases to amaze me at how a person can never find a group of people or even a single individual that we can completely agree with on everything... we will always find something that something to disagree with. Such as this: I am an American (who believes to have ancestry from Ireland, Scotland and yes... even England) who would like to see Ireland united and free from any British intervention and ruled by the Irish people themselves. Therefore, if I were in Ireland I would be a Republican Nationalist in the purest sense (by strict definition and not perversion of the terms)... by this I mean 1. Republican - that I believe that Ireland should be a nation in which the supreme power rests in all the citizens entitiled to vote and is exercised by representatives elected, directly or indirectly, by them and responsible to them and that the nation should be governed by laws and 2. Nationalist - desires for national independence and unification of all 32 Irish counties from British control and advocates a unified Irish character and culture.
So, I am with you Irish who desire these things for yourselves... but I must say that you have no voice with me in regards to my President (and remember he is my President... not yours. Remember we are talking national pride and sovereignty here). America (and the whole of Europe) is in danger from a new threat to our way of lives, our system of laws and governance. This threat comes from Islam. The war was brought to us, not just on 9/11 but many years before. 9/11 was the last straw and wake up call. You have not had your wake up call. Tell me... how many mosques are in Ireland now? Islam is spreading at a rapid pace across the whole of Europe, Canada and even into the U.S. Now, you can say in the name of tolerance and socialism that all have to be given fair and equal access into our societies... but Europe, Canada and the U.S. have open societies and this system is being used against us. Most Islamic nations are closed societies, so influence from "Christian" and democratic West is almost non-existant. But, we swing wide the doors for there people to come on in and bring their intolerant and oppressive views into our countries. The goal of Islam is to subdue the world and bring it under "shuria", Islamic law. They are using our open, tolerant and liberal stances against us, because, in the name of these things we allow them to have a voice in our policy making not knowing that they desire to achieve footholds into our government's policy making and eventually impose their Islamic laws and values onto us.
What I am trying to say is this, I support George Bush wholeheartedly and you should just shut your yappers. He is not your President but you sure will benefit from his fortitude and guts to stand against our next greatest enemy.

Well well, what have we got here? A school-example of a mis-informed or brain-washed American?
Bush has got you perfectly in his hand... What is the way to make people vote for Bush and the far right-wing? Fear, fear and fear... You are SO paranoiac...
The view you have on Islam is retarded... I'm an athe�st an consider all religion as nonsense, although I respect people who believe. Not one religion can be a threat: It's the way people interpret it... Islam, Christianity and so on...

Before I go any further allow me to ask you... are you here in the States or are you actually in Ireland?

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To answer your question: I'm someone who supports the Irish reunification and independence...

What is mind numbing is running into people who do not believe in anything and are naive about the difference between good and evil. I don't care if you are religious or not... I am not going to take your country or take your head for that. There are those who would take your country and your head (watch the videos of innocent people losing their heads) because you are the "infidel". You need to study more about the Islamic religion and their goals. Get your head out of the sand watch for what is coming. There is a greater threat to Ireland than England and a greater threat to England than Ireland... it is Islam.
For you people concerned with Irish Republicanism, you better keep your eye on the influx of Muslim influence into your culture... maybe because of your inability to fully come together and agree on key issues has caused you to miss your chance. Because of your socialist, tolerant and liberalism you will become blended and a national culture and identity will not matter anymore. Perhaps one day you will wake up and find that parts of the Quran have been blended into your laws.

O.K. then. What I just said about Ireland goes for you too.

Come on... Be a bit more tolerant (without being naive of course)!
There are far more Islamic immigrants in Europe than in the States and it isn't that bad, is? I SEE, you know... And, of course, if you see Europe as bad, I suppose it is because it is a bit to liberal for you Americans... To me, it isn't liberal enough!

P.S. I certainly haven't got my head in the sand, but I have a different opinion yes... I think pluralism is a good thing: EVERYWHERE...

My last: I promess!

Shit!
Can anyone delete that? Patrick? I didn't mean to, but I'd rather not have my pic on here! I selected the wrong one...

Interesting discussion. Thank you for your opinion, sir. I hope that we can remain cordial and gentlemen in coming discussions.
I get a little hot when outsiders consider themselves knowledgable to slam my country and it's government... I can guarantee you that no one here gives a flip about what you do or who your President is or whether you support them or not. But, I will say one thing... when you need us we will be there to help. That's all I'm going to say.
May the God of this universe bless you in some special way today.
It was a pleasure.
James

Bjorn: Thanks a lot!


@ James:

One more temporary LANKAnoid...

I don't know what the fuck a LANKANOID is, but I know that you're just terrorist-loving, women-and-children-murderers loving little German runt who's continuously got his head inserted up his arse.

What did you expect Bush to label the IRA as? It comes as a surprise to me that it comes as a surprise to you that Bush labelled the IRA as terrorists. I don't normally like Bush, but at least he knows a terrorist organisation when he sees one.

What did you expect him to do? Invite the IRA to the Whitehouse for a cup of tea?

It's nice to see that our fellow Europeans love democracy so much that they care nothing of the fact that the Northern Irish have voted time and time again in DEMOCRATIC elections to stay as a part of the UK. What is the UK supposed to do? Say "Who gives a fuck that the Northern Irish wish to stay as a part of the UK? Let's just fuck democracy and give it back to the Irish."?

Well well, seems we have another one of those "thight-arsed" insults-throwing babboons over here...

A good laugh though... I mostly do not laugh about the stupidity of other people, but indeed, sometimes I make an exeption...

Ok. Considering that you are so concerned for the "liberation" of people (even those people who don't want it!) why not help out the "Britanny Liberation Front (known in French as the ARB), those nice gentleman similar to the IRA who want Breton independence from France?

Would you compare Ireland with Palestina? Palestina with Brittany? Brittany with the Bask country? The Bask country with Catalunya? Catalunya with Corsica?

Comparing them demonstrates only your stupidity. I even won't bother discussing Brittany as it would be wasting my time and common sense on your brainless turnip-head...

Oh, I see! Typical Frenchmen. Thinks that his country is so far superior to all others on the planet that he can come onto a discussion forum to tell everyone that he thinks that N.Ireland should be under Irish, whilst thinking that the French should rule Brittany.

Before you complain about the British, get your own house in order first. If the French don't give independence to Britanny, I don't see why the British should hand over N.Ireland.

So happy to talk about Northern Ireland, but whenever the subject of Brittanny pops up he tries to avoid the question.

If Britain is to hand over N.Ireland, then the French should give independence to Brittanny; the Germans should give independence to Bavaria; the Italians should give independence to Sicily (those Sicilians HATE Italians. I know that cos I used to live in Italy).