I have so far Bring them home Let the People Provo's Lullaby
London's Derry Sean South/Roll of honour/Go on home
Boys of the old Brigade Dublin in the green Sam song
Sunday Bloody Sunday

Is there any other classics im forgetting here?. they're the only one's that show up on Kazaa. Just wondering or any other bands like them, I have some Wolftones but they don't get you going as much as Eire og.

I guess there are so many more you'll never ever get all of them.
Try Kazaa again later, you'll see many other songs.

And actually, I wanted to ask someone if Eire Og and Wolfe Tones aren't the same group cause it often happened to me to download songs that appear to be by Wolfe Tones and then when I have them on my computer, the name is Eire Og, that's kinda confusing.
So anyway, you can still download Wolfe Tones songs, in the end they might prove to be Eire Og.

Slan agat

afaik, they're not, its so that only one user did think, this song is from the wolfe tones, and few others uploaded it from him, and they didn't change the names, so more and more downloaded it

I have tons of Eire Og songs M8.

Patriot Game, Fields of Athenry, Pearse Jordan, Im not sure what all I have Im not at my CPU, I can send them to you if you want.


SOI

Fuck me, mate. Theres millions of class songs.

Aidan MacAnespie
Boys of Wexford
Willie and Danny
People Own M.P
Irish Soldier Laddie
H-Block Song
Some Say The Devil Is Dead
Crossmaglen
Ten Brave Men
Tom Williams
Plastic Bullets
No Time For Love
Something Inside So Strong
This Land is Your Land
Back Home in Derry
Black & Tans
James Connolly
The Rifles of The I.R.A.
The Town I Love So Well
McIllhatton
Terrorist or Dreamer
Broad, Black Brimmer
Ballad of Roger Casement
Merry Ploughboy / Auf Weidersehn to Crossmaglen / Tiocfaidh Ar La
Sunday Bloody Sunday
Pearse Jordan
Tom Williams
Let the People Sing /
Take it Down From the Mast / This Land is Your Land
Bring Them Home
Boys of the Old Brigade / Crumlin Road Jail
Joe McDonnell
Sean South / Roll of Honour / Go on Home
S.A.M. Song
Soldiers Song

Are they all �ire �g cause Ive heard them all but by different groups?


SOI

Cheers lads/lassies.


Been getting a few more today.

My fave's gotta be Joe McDonnell or this is my land.

i think downloading such great songs at kazaa is not good. support the rebel bands and traditional bands and buy their cds. if u dont know where u can get them try it at www.the-huddle.co.uk or at the sin fein bookshop.

tiocfaid ar la

germany is on your side for a free ireland

I can't get here in Canada and Kazaa is still legal here so I download everything I can, and some of me M8's here send alot of stuff. I don't see it as ripping off any group, but as spreading the history of our land through song!

SOI

Hey, as you may notice im new to this site, as well as new to the irish rebel movement. I'm new because i never realy knew my grandfather or his past. but now i do, and he is gone, some one must keep the fight. i'm with you irelands son, i to live in canada, and find it hard to find any of these artist. i love eire og, but kazaa is really bad for ur comp, try like bear share or something. even still on kazaa it's very hard to find irish rebel music.

cead mile failte

welcome to you IrishRebel

What does it take to be an Irish rebel nowadays? An occasional step on the soapbox shouting "Ireland unfree will never be at peace" and hoping someone on the other side of the world will notice?
Rebel, get real. Supporter perhaps at the most. Please reserve the word rebel for those who endangered their lives because they believed in an ideal and stop the deflation of the word!

Vince

Do you have all these songs... i looking for a song called A Soldiers Story. All i know is thats its an Irish Rebel Song, the only problem is i cant find a copy of it anywhere.

Cheers
Alex L

Downloading from Kazaa in Canada may be legal a chara, but no matter what type of spin you put on it, it is still imho a breech of copyright,which is an illegal act. Not necessarily because it costs me money, it's not exactly lots btw, but simply because it is an infringement of the rights of the songwriter, which again, isn't me.

Part of the reason we have so many debates about who wrote what songs, is that very few people get access to the original material which usually credit the original songwriter. On this very thread we have an example of someone who doesn't know the difference between Eire Og and The Wolfetones. Apart from about 40 years, and a completley different birthplace, I would think both bands sound completely different. These mistakes are mainly due to the amount of sub standard, incorrect and innacurate songs available on these sites. The amount of times people have argued about which songs I've recorded, insisting I sing certain songs, which I don't, simply because they downloaded it and therefore assume it must be accurate.

I think it is important that people get the credit they deserve for the songs they have written, and also get the monies that they are due. They afterall took the time to learn to play and write and compose these songs. Individuals such as Paddy McGuigan and Gerry O'Glaican do not get the credit they deserve for the songs they've written, and certainly don't get the financial rewards they are due in this day and age of downloading. This is the big problem. You are getting FREE access to someone elses work.

Personally I am not completely against sharing music,I, however, did not write them, so, when you are passing around details from my cd's which contain songs by other people that I am legally bound to protect their copyright, then I must then ask the admin to discourage these links, and to discourage in general, this type of behaviour on the site altogether. To show that I am not just trying to stop you downloading my cd's, I will send you a cd free of charge a chara if you pm me. A cd on which the copyright has been acknowledged, and that the artists featured will get paid fairly. Is this a compromise?

All the best

Gary Og

I agree with you Gary, as it is a violation. I can't say that I've not used P2P programmes, but I can say that I don't have much of the music I did have at the pc. The pc I'm on does have some of your music, but it was all from cd ripped to the library so I could listen to it without having to have the cd here with me at all times because I'm back and forth from the states so much. I can also say that I don't have a burner, so it's not like I was making copies. The cd's from there don't work in the players here anyhoo. I stopped doing it as soon as I found out someone used my work also and they actually got the credit for it. So I get you there. I think it's wonderful that you'd actually send a copy of the cd, a cd of yours for free

Anyhoo, as for people not being able to tell the difference between WT and EG ... that's kind of scary seeing as how neither sounds like the other. I love em both as well as Shebeen, Charlie & the Bhoys, Irish Brigade, Christy Moore (Moving Hearts), Athenrye, Spirit of Freedom, Seanchai, The Unity Squad, The Dubliners, Seven Nations, Young Dubliners also, ... well .. as you can see the list is endless I could go a step further in saying that I just love music, whether it be our music ... or music of other countries ... or even my own music And no .. am not going to force the lot of you to listen to it lol

Jesus peeps .. it's damn good to be back

Nota Bene:
I didn't say download from Kazaa, I just suggested he should search on Kazaa to see other titles.
I have stopped downloading when they started all the trials in France. Wasn't downloading that much though. Mostly titles I had no access to because they're not widely sold in France or crap songs that I don't mind listenning but that I wouldnt bother to buy (If I hadnt downloaded them, I wouldnt have bought them at all.) One thing I did too was downloading one song before buying an album so I can see if I really want it or not.
However... I no longer do that (I can't afford paying the fines! and I don't have my own computer now that I live in Ireland.)

Charlotte,

Do you still have Mairead's song I sent you? I have been looking for it for a good while if so can you email it to me at [email protected]?

Thanks, I miss that song.

Hehe... it's good to have you back You know, you're greatly missed when you're away

Keltic Banshee

ack thanks Keltic ... I sure hope things have gone well on your journey as for being missed .. a think a couple people have missed me lol it's both good and bad to be missed. I'm not one for getting too close to people and when a think I'm just a bit too close, I kind of back off a bit. I'm not sure why but I do, but the one time I've not wanted to really back off was from this forum. I've always felt at home here so I'd like to thank all those that have been more than friendly towards me here There's been so many people I've missed, so many posts I've missed reading when a was away ... quite nice to see that the lot of yas are still about

Ryan,
I still have it on my PC in France. I won't be back there until Christmas though. I'll ask my brother to send it to you for me. If he forgets you can still ask around the forum. I sent it to a number of people (Chucky Armagh, Oglaigh and xaun deslai for sure. Might have sent it as well to Noel and Fianna).

Ryan, I got that song.. actually I think it's the same as I got from Charlotte a while ago.. isn't it Charlotte? =)
PM me and I'll mail it or send it on msn.

Yeah, I think I sent it to you as well.

feel free to add me to msn [email protected] or send it by email to that address

Thanks very much

I've added you on msn now. [email protected], so you know who's adding you. =)

Hey all!! 1st post here!!

WEll i just wanna say that my sister did irsih dancing when she was younger and used to travel around the irish pubs in glasgow doing dancing to fundraise when i was younger i was lucky enough to go and see a few of the bands playing in the pubs b4 the dancers went up to dance and 1 of the bands i seen a few times was eire og and just wanna say a cd doesnt come anywhere close to how good they are live in the breazen head!!

Gary if u read this just wanna say your music is fantastic
P.s i think u went to school with my sister

Many thanks, scottishgizmo for your kind post. I do indeed remember the Irish dancers doing their bit in the Brazen before the bands, although it seems so long ago. How long ago are we really talking here? I have the biggest holes in my memory for reasons I won't mention, but I'm thinking must be close to 10 years ago, eh?

I note you sadi in your post, your sister danced when she was younger. Does that mean she no longer does? Such a shame if thats the case, as all the dancers I remember where excellent, and you should never give up your culture a chara. It's what makes us who we are!

All the best!

Hi

Just registered on this forum, whilst searching for the lyrics of 'Sea around us', and I must both agree and disagree with Gary on this one. The copyright issue is well open for debate and I for one hardly ever think of the consequences of downloading music for free. However, in relation to Irish music, be it traditional, folk or rebel, it is extremely hard to find certain songs by certain artists. For example, tonight I was thinking about The Sea Around Us by the Dubs and how it's been a few years since I heard this song, so I went on to Shareaza and had a look for it. Unsuccessful, I then had a look on Amazon and spent over �30 on several CD's by the Dubs and Clancy Bros. The CD with 'The Sea Around Us' had quite a few other songs on it, but I have at least two exact copies of each of the other songs. I have nearly 20 Dubliners albums, and the majority of the songs appear on every one. It's ridiculous that I paid �10 for a CD that I already had twice over with the exception of one song. The total price for these albums must be at least �150.

We are starting to move forward now with legal downloads, but these companies are trying to dominate the market, and so the songs you download cannot be placed onto CD. They either have to be played on your computer or Ipod, or whatever other Mp3 player that company happens to endorse. With this problem and the paying through the nose for an album in which you only want one song I generally save my money and just download it for free (If I can find it that is).

Now... I do understand what Gary is saying about individual artists not getting the credit they deserve for the songs they have written, because Paddy McGuigan is my uncle and I have the job of opening his royalty letters every month, and granted, the money is pittence. Now and again he'll get a few quid which will take him and the wife out for a few nights, and maybe go towards a holiday, but the majority of the time I reckon it actually costs more to send the envelope! I have also spoken to Paddy about the issue of illegal downloads, and as you can imagine he isn't best pleased about people illegally downloading his music.

The point I made to him was that if people are downloading the odd rebel song for free then maybe they'll go and buy a few rebel albums if they want a particular song. I personally never gave the Clancy Bros much notice until I downloaded a song called 'Red Haired Mary'. I now have five or six albums (real ones, not downloads) by the Clancy Bros. Mind you, he still didn't see my point, but I do see his.

If I was Paddy, or even Gary Og, I would be disgusted at the thought of someone stealing my songs or downloading my albums for free. But there's two sides to every coin... the person downloading is getting the music for free, and if they are thinking about copyright then it will probably be thoughts of getting one over on the big record labels. If they are sharing the music then they are also promoting it. There will eventually be a compromise where music can be legally downloaded at a small cost with no restrictions.

I just hope that Irish music can benifit as a result of this. Although they're not my cup of tea, no offence intended here (I'm more into the Dubs and that generation etc), the Wolfetones and Eire Og are two of the very very few who have kept Irish rebel music alive around the world. None of my mates would be able to sing the version of 'Bring them home' from the B side of my uncles album, but they'd probably be able to recall the version on Eire Og Live at the Brazen Head! (Memories springing up of when I was about 16 sitting outside on a cold winters night with my bottle of Buckfast singing along to that album!). They wouldn't have a clue who the Barleycorn are, or Wolfhound and Ray McArevey, or even the DCR... but they all know the Wolfetones and Eire Og.

The fact of the matter is, these artists are never going to make millions for the songs they wrote in the 60's, 70's and 80's. If you can promote Irish music by sharing it, then it's gotta be a good thing is it not? The music is dying a very undeserved death at the moment imho (please correct me if I'm wrong)... I recently went to the Legends of Irish Folk Concert in Dublin, and myself and the g/f were the youngest there (I'm 26). If we hadn't been there, Laim Clancy would probably have been the youngest! My girlfriend was embarassed and swore she would never go to another Irish Concert with me again LOL. She told me if anyone asked I had to say we were with our grandparents! I personally couldn't have give a flying fiddlers, but it was extremely sad to see a lack of young people present to hear the legends sing songs that actually have some meaning, and not the constant thump thump thump of DJ Teisto and Gatecrasher and the other shite going about these days.

One last thing... I'm sort of with Gary on this one too... I feel for the person who cannot tell the diff between Eire Og and Wolfetones. It's sad that the people who are sharing this music have such disregard for the music. If you are gonna rip music to share, ffs at least get the tags right! If you have a song and you know the filename/artist/title is wrong, change it to the proper filename.

Awh well, just my 2 cents, I'll shut up now.

Christy

The thing that hits me the most is the way all this copyright crap only really benefits the label companies and not really the bands.

In music the copyright issue is a difficult one, but when we talk about another publication, (I include music here too in a way), I wouldn't like to see my work being taken and someone claiming to be his.

I have to say that I do greatly (Even though not always) respect copyrights, not because I fear being fined or prosecuted, but simply as a respect to the author of the publications.

PS: Gary Og are you in anyway related to Eire Og? Just wondering because scottishgizmo's comment here. If you are, congratulation!! yous are class.

He was only the lead singer!

[wel lad ould ya send me all dem songs

i have been reading throught this thread (which i found rather difficult thanks to the way the replys are now listed) i have picked up lot of songs from different site and i will be honest some are gary og. I have used http://www.brazen-head.co.uk/huddle/index.html to buy alot of the albums i got i have also be given alot from various people. One thing that people think of when buying these albums is the same as any band be it oasis,pink floyd or the irish brigade is money they can either buy it in a shop or a web site or download it for nothing in minutes and it is the same quailty or better as it can not get damaged like a cd if it is lyin around. It is true all music is effected my downloading and bands have found this out the hard way the way to make money is going back to your routs and getting on the road and play infront of the people dylan found this out hence the never ending tour.

For Gary �g I noticed at the begining of the thread some-one say they have you singing Aiden MacAnespie have you released a copy of this song in Eire �g/Partisan or solo and if where can it be bought? I have been searching the net for Partisan albums aswel but i have had no luck did you release a album and again where can it be bought?

PS I am a bit drunk typing this i will poish it up if there are any mistakes 2moro.




TAL

Some say that dowloading music from stuff like Kazaa or others kills the music itself. My friends who play in rock band are against it and there is no wonder in it for me. They are interested not only in making music, but also in selling cds. still, it's a way of earning for a living for them, not only their hobby.


Eh, it's like comparing let's say Rolling Stones and Fink Floyd . They have no things in common except being a great musicians

I am angry with your statement because I feel the rebel's are still alive and willing n' just waiting to see what the palpitations can do (peacefully). We aren�t bad people and all want to end our troubles with as little blood split as possible. If this doesn�t work, and i am sure I am not alone, I would do what ever it takes.

[i]I am not the biggest republican in the world and can only imagine what it was like at the height of it all. I am only 21 and I work with and don�t have any problems with protestant people, but I still know what matters! A UNITED IRELAND. IT�S OUR COUNTRY, WER'E ALL THE SAME PEOPLE, WHY DIVIDE IT?

Try bittorrent sites, plenty there!

Does anyone have the SAm song on mp3? I can't find it anywhere and i was windering if anyone would be able to send it to me? I would be very grateful. You can contact me here or at [email protected]

hello,
I'm looking for english translation of breton song:

son ar christr (cider song)...

if anybody know where I can find it, or have such lyrics - please!!! I love that song so much but ... It would be nice to know what actually I'm singing

thanks, marta