Nota Bene:
I didn't say download from Kazaa, I just suggested he should search on Kazaa to see other titles.
I have stopped downloading when they started all the trials in France. Wasn't downloading that much though. Mostly titles I had no access to because they're not widely sold in France or crap songs that I don't mind listenning but that I wouldnt bother to buy (If I hadnt downloaded them, I wouldnt have bought them at all.) One thing I did too was downloading one song before buying an album so I can see if I really want it or not.
However... I no longer do that (I can't afford paying the fines! and I don't have my own computer now that I live in Ireland.)

Charlotte,

Do you still have Mairead's song I sent you? I have been looking for it for a good while (IMG:/forum/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) if so can you email it to me at [email protected]?

Thanks, I miss that song.

Hehe... it's good to have you back (IMG:/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) You know, you're greatly missed when you're away (IMG:/forum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Keltic Banshee

ack (IMG:/forum/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) thanks Keltic ... I sure hope things have gone well on your journey (IMG:/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) as for being missed .. a think a couple people have missed me lol it's both good and bad to be missed. I'm not one for getting too close to people and when a think I'm just a bit too close, I kind of back off a bit. I'm not sure why but I do, but the one time I've not wanted to really back off was from this forum. I've always felt at home here so I'd like to thank all those that have been more than friendly towards me here (IMG:/forum/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) There's been so many people I've missed, so many posts I've missed reading when a was away ... quite nice to see that the lot of yas are still about (IMG:/forum/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

Ryan,
I still have it on my PC in France. I won't be back there until Christmas though. I'll ask my brother to send it to you for me. If he forgets you can still ask around the forum. I sent it to a number of people (Chucky Armagh, Oglaigh and xaun deslai for sure. Might have sent it as well to Noel and Fianna).

Ryan, I got that song.. actually I think it's the same as I got from Charlotte a while ago.. isn't it Charlotte? =)
PM me and I'll mail it or send it on msn. (IMG:/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Yeah, I think I sent it to you as well.

feel free to add me to msn [email protected] or send it by email to that address (IMG:/forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thanks very much

I've added you on msn now. [email protected], so you know who's adding you. =)

Hey all!! 1st post here!! (IMG:/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

WEll i just wanna say that my sister did irsih dancing when she was younger and used to travel around the irish pubs in glasgow doing dancing to fundraise when i was younger i was lucky enough to go and see a few of the bands playing in the pubs b4 the dancers went up to dance and 1 of the bands i seen a few times was eire og and just wanna say a cd doesnt come anywhere close to how good they are live in the breazen head!!

Gary if u read this just wanna say your music is fantastic (IMG:/forum/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
P.s i think u went to school with my sister

Many thanks, scottishgizmo for your kind post. I do indeed remember the Irish dancers doing their bit in the Brazen before the bands, although it seems so long ago. How long ago are we really talking here? I have the biggest holes in my memory for reasons I won't mention, but I'm thinking must be close to 10 years ago, eh?

I note you sadi in your post, your sister danced when she was younger. Does that mean she no longer does? Such a shame if thats the case, as all the dancers I remember where excellent, and you should never give up your culture a chara. It's what makes us who we are!

All the best!

Hi

Just registered on this forum, whilst searching for the lyrics of 'Sea around us', and I must both agree and disagree with Gary on this one. The copyright issue is well open for debate and I for one hardly ever think of the consequences of downloading music for free. However, in relation to Irish music, be it traditional, folk or rebel, it is extremely hard to find certain songs by certain artists. For example, tonight I was thinking about The Sea Around Us by the Dubs and how it's been a few years since I heard this song, so I went on to Shareaza and had a look for it. Unsuccessful, I then had a look on Amazon and spent over �30 on several CD's by the Dubs and Clancy Bros. The CD with 'The Sea Around Us' had quite a few other songs on it, but I have at least two exact copies of each of the other songs. I have nearly 20 Dubliners albums, and the majority of the songs appear on every one. It's ridiculous that I paid �10 for a CD that I already had twice over with the exception of one song. The total price for these albums must be at least �150.

We are starting to move forward now with legal downloads, but these companies are trying to dominate the market, and so the songs you download cannot be placed onto CD. They either have to be played on your computer or Ipod, or whatever other Mp3 player that company happens to endorse. With this problem and the paying through the nose for an album in which you only want one song I generally save my money and just download it for free (If I can find it that is).

Now... I do understand what Gary is saying about individual artists not getting the credit they deserve for the songs they have written, because Paddy McGuigan is my uncle and I have the job of opening his royalty letters every month, and granted, the money is pittence. Now and again he'll get a few quid which will take him and the wife out for a few nights, and maybe go towards a holiday, but the majority of the time I reckon it actually costs more to send the envelope! I have also spoken to Paddy about the issue of illegal downloads, and as you can imagine he isn't best pleased about people illegally downloading his music.

The point I made to him was that if people are downloading the odd rebel song for free then maybe they'll go and buy a few rebel albums if they want a particular song. I personally never gave the Clancy Bros much notice until I downloaded a song called 'Red Haired Mary'. I now have five or six albums (real ones, not downloads) by the Clancy Bros. Mind you, he still didn't see my point, but I do see his.

If I was Paddy, or even Gary Og, I would be disgusted at the thought of someone stealing my songs or downloading my albums for free. But there's two sides to every coin... the person downloading is getting the music for free, and if they are thinking about copyright then it will probably be thoughts of getting one over on the big record labels. If they are sharing the music then they are also promoting it. There will eventually be a compromise where music can be legally downloaded at a small cost with no restrictions.

I just hope that Irish music can benifit as a result of this. Although they're not my cup of tea, no offence intended here (I'm more into the Dubs and that generation etc), the Wolfetones and Eire Og are two of the very very few who have kept Irish rebel music alive around the world. None of my mates would be able to sing the version of 'Bring them home' from the B side of my uncles album, but they'd probably be able to recall the version on Eire Og Live at the Brazen Head! (Memories springing up of when I was about 16 sitting outside on a cold winters night with my bottle of Buckfast singing along to that album!). They wouldn't have a clue who the Barleycorn are, or Wolfhound and Ray McArevey, or even the DCR... but they all know the Wolfetones and Eire Og.

The fact of the matter is, these artists are never going to make millions for the songs they wrote in the 60's, 70's and 80's. If you can promote Irish music by sharing it, then it's gotta be a good thing is it not? The music is dying a very undeserved death at the moment imho (please correct me if I'm wrong)... I recently went to the Legends of Irish Folk Concert in Dublin, and myself and the g/f were the youngest there (I'm 26). If we hadn't been there, Laim Clancy would probably have been the youngest! My girlfriend was embarassed and swore she would never go to another Irish Concert with me again LOL. She told me if anyone asked I had to say we were with our grandparents! I personally couldn't have give a flying fiddlers, but it was extremely sad to see a lack of young people present to hear the legends sing songs that actually have some meaning, and not the constant thump thump thump of DJ Teisto and Gatecrasher and the other shite going about these days.

One last thing... I'm sort of with Gary on this one too... I feel for the person who cannot tell the diff between Eire Og and Wolfetones. It's sad that the people who are sharing this music have such disregard for the music. If you are gonna rip music to share, ffs at least get the tags right! If you have a song and you know the filename/artist/title is wrong, change it to the proper filename.

Awh well, just my 2 cents, I'll shut up now.

Christy

The thing that hits me the most is the way all this copyright crap only really benefits the label companies and not really the bands.

In music the copyright issue is a difficult one, but when we talk about another publication, (I include music here too in a way), I wouldn't like to see my work being taken and someone claiming to be his.

I have to say that I do greatly (Even though not always) respect copyrights, not because I fear being fined or prosecuted, but simply as a respect to the author of the publications.

PS: Gary Og are you in anyway related to Eire Og? Just wondering because scottishgizmo's comment here. If you are, congratulation!! yous are class.

He was only the lead singer! (IMG:/forum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

[wel lad ould ya send me all dem songs