Lan is actually Irish I believe, Lancashire, you fuckin tit.

If your going to argue, at least argue properly and use facts. Not every N.I resident wants to be British. If you actually went orlived there yourself you'd realise this. Northern Ireland was forced under the Union and that is a fact. And the British DID imperial colonise Ireland.

It isnt stealing if its yours...so how can ireland be trying to steal Northern Ireland back? They were all the one country...one big happy, bastard, country. And then Britain got power hungry and invaded and took over. Then they are fought to a standstill and they free 26 of the 32 counties. But they refused to free the other 6.
Ireland and the Irish just want those 6 returned to them. As do almost half of the Northern Irish themselves.

Is it just me, or are we seeing yet ANOTHER side of LANcashire Poor sick Bastard needs help

The Northern Irish wishes to remain British??? I'm sorry but first of all no one asked you to come over and stay in Ireland. Secondly those who so much wish to remain British came from Britain, they've no right on this land. So just fuck off !

Too damn right...

And what's all this massive quote-copying?! I can read every half a book Lance wrote twice over again, once the original and every time the copy quoted by Lancashire... I can understand quoting, but in such way?...

Patrick

That LANcashire is not me if that is what you are trying to imply.

I am really busy at the moment, pissed off to put it another way.

I just do not have the time to reply to all these messages, most of which are shit, small-minded and written by someone who calls himself Lancashire.

LANCASHIRE you do not have a clue what people are talking about.

Only the boring replies of the EIK (He Knows WHO I MEAN) are worse.

LAN

I will be back online but not at this moment.

Ge bedoelt toch niet Eikel zeker, onnozelaar... Indien niet m'n oprechte excususes!

Dat moet excuses zijn natuurlijk...

Christophe, I dont know what that means, But it sure looks good

EIK

Ja bedoel ik. Eikel. En mijn verontschuldigingen voor u in het kennen
van dat niet. Natuurlijk.

Patrick

Looking is harmless touching is better. Same with languages. I can understand and the look is a small matter.

Oi love languages oi studied dem.

P�g mo th�in!

Slainte

Dun ta beal

LAN', ne pizdi, suka yebanaya, tut prilichniy narod tussuet. Ponyal, kozyol shpileniy?

vanitas vanitatum et omnia vanitas

I've been away for a while and it seems that I've missed...language classes!

me too, but it sounds like LAN is getting the brunt end of the stick

Yeah? But which way is he taking it, if you know what I mean?

UP THE ASS

Come on man, you're meant to be subtle about it!






But yeah!

Hi Pad

Yes. It looks like you missed a language lesson.

And Yes you need a lesson in the use of subtle language, as Fianna as stated.

But that is not the aim here.

I want to discuss here how we can unite Ireland and not to throw abuse at each other.

Well done Eik, you spoilt the game again.

oh, thats easy, push the british Virus out of the north, stop the british terrorism round the world and live in peace together... but few people wont understand it

The following is an article from the Guardian, concerning vandalism at a Republican Graveyard.

Looks like a group of nothing to do morons from the unionist side had nothing better to do than destroy gravestones. Probably bored youths who cry about how bad they have it and how bad the republicans are.

Sad thing is that most likely the same type of people, this time from the Republican community will go about and do a similar act.



The grave of the hunger striker and republican hero Bobby Sands has been destroyed and all 16 IRA headstones desecrated in the republican plot in Milltown Cemetery in West Belfast - the nearest thing the Provisionals have to a Cenotaph.
The granite memorials were smashed by attackers in the early hours of yesterday morning, including the grave of Sinn F�in leader Gerry Adams's father, who died in November.

A dummy pipe-bomb was also left at the plot, which was was the scene of a slaughter in 1988 when the lone loyalist gunman, Michael Stone, attacked mourners at the funeral of three IRA members killed by the SAS in Gibraltar. Their graves and the graves of the mourners who died that day were also vandalised.

The headstone of Bobby Sands, who was the first of 10 Republican prisoners to die on hunger strike in 1981, was smashed into three.

The dead have often been targets throughout the Troubles, and there have been more attacks on graveyards since the ceasefires. The republican plot was last attacked four years ago.

In the past year there has been a series of attacks on Catholic graves in Carnmoney cemetery which borders the loyalist Rathcoole estate in North Belfast.

The grave of Daniel McGolgan, a postman shot dead by loyalist paramilitaries in 2002, has repeatedly been targeted and was vandalised last month.

Michael Browne, Sinn F�in councillor for West Belfast, said the vandalism showed that Northern Ireland's polarised communities were still at war despite the ceasefires and efforts to restore the political process.

He said: "The reality is that this sort of thing is happening. You only need to look at the sectarian strife in interface areas [where Catholic and Protestant neighbourhoods meet].

"Look at the problems, such as harassment, which communities like this one still have with members of the Police Service of Northern Ireland. It is happening away from the glare of publicity, but it is happening on a daily basis.

"My gut feeling is anger that someone could come in and do this in a cemetery, irrespective of the graves that have been attacked." He said the perpetrators were "beneath contempt".

Sinn F�in said questions would be asked about why surveillance equipment at the nearby Anderstontown barracks did not pick up images of the attacks. The SDLP condemned the attacks as "wanton acts of vandalism".

� David Trimble, the leader of the Ulster Unionist party, last night warned that a review of the Good Friday agreement was doomed unless paramili taries wound up all criminal activities. He said: "It is as if the Northern Ireland office wishes to rearrange the deckchairs on the Titanic after it has hit the iceberg."

The idiot should stand down along with his DUP Party.

Paisley to stand down as MEP

Matthew Tempest and agencies
Monday January 19, 2004

The Rev Ian Paisley will quit the European parliament in June, he announced today.
The 77-year old MP, MEP and member of the Northern Ireland assembly starred in probably the most dramatic moment in the history of the Brussels parliament when he held up a placard calling the Pope "the antichrist" during an address by John-Paul II in 1988.

Mr Paisley, who has topped the poll in Northern Ireland in every European parliament election, confirmed today at Stormont he would not be seeking re-election.

The DUP leader will remain the MP and assembly member (AM) for North Antrim and will head his party's talks team and review of the Good Friday agreement, which it was today announced would begin on February 3.

The decision will mark the end of a colourful 25-year career in the European parliament.

After receiving almost 30% of the overall Northern Ireland vote in the 1979 European election, he became the first MEP to speak in the parliament when he protested that the Union Flag was flying upside down.

The DUP leader also interrupted the speech of the then Irish prime minister Jack Lynch to complain about his government's refusal to sign the European Convention on Terrorism.

In 1988 Mr Paisley faced angry objections from MEPs and was ejected from the European Parliament when he interrupted an address by Pope John Paul II.

He was an active member of the European parliament agriculture and fisheries committee, vigorously putting forward Northern Ireland's case during subsidy negotiations. Along with former nationalist SDLP leader John Hume and Ulster Unionist MEP Jim Nicholson, Mr Paisley, 77, also secured European peace and reconciliation funding for socially deprived communities in northern Ireland and border counties in the Irish Republic.

His decision to stand down came after the DUP's strong performance in the assembly elections in November where it emerged the largest party, overtaking David Trimble's Ulster Unionists.

The party was further boosted this month by the defection of three former Ulster Unionist AMs - Lagan Valley MP Jeffrey Donaldson, his constituency colleague Norah Beare and Fermanagh and South Tyrone MLA Arlene Foster - which brought the DUP's total of Stormont seats to 33.

LOOKS MORE LIKE A COVER UP.

An inquiry by the Royal Ulster Constabulary into a sectarian murder was "appalling and unprofessional" and had "serious and unexplained failures", a report by the province's police ombudsman said yesterday.
Detectives had made no real effort to track down the killers, the report added.

The family of Sean Brown, 61, who was shot dead by the Loyalist Volunteer Force in May 1997, had asked the ombudsman, Nuala O'Loan, to investigate the case.

Her report delivered a damning assessment of the inquiry. The renamed and reformed Police Service of Northern Ireland will now reopen the case with a new team of detectives.

Brown was abducted by the LVF as he locked up his local Gaelic sports club at Bellaghy, Co Londonderry. He was shot six times, and his body was found near his burnt-out car.

The report included a string of inadequacies: a failure to identify and deal with forensic evidence; no proper search for witnesses; no attempt to trace motorists; a failure by Special Branch to pass on intelligence reports; missing records; and the history of the murder weapon not being properly investigated.

However, the report found there had been no collusion between the murderers and the security forces, as alleged in other killings.

David Woods, formerly the executive director of investigations for the ombudsman, said: "This was a catalogue of incompetence and failures. There were very serious and inexplicable failures. It was very bad police work. This was an appalling investigation."

Sitting around in my hotel room at the moment.

Interesting article about population changes in N.Ireland. This article strengthens my position more in that we have to do more to persuade people in NI, through peaceful means, that a unified Ireland is the best for the future.

I am well busy at the moment, well for next few months. So I wont be very active on the forum for now.


The following article written by Dennis Kennedy appeared in the Irish Times

Last week�s census results could have introduced that rarest of things into the Northern Ireland situation � a stabilising factor. For as Garret FitzGerald wrote on Saturday, the truth now is that the prospect of a majority in the North for Irish unity is sufficiently remote for that goal to be irrelevant to Irish politics in the foreseeable future.

The much anticipated new demographic reality did not emerge, and far from being roughly equal in size, the two communities in the North are probably locked into a permanent unionist majority-nationalist minority relationship, albeit a close one. The slow-down in the Catholic birth rate confirmed in the results means there is no chance of a Catholic majority in the foreseeable future, and no chance at all of a majority in favour of Irish unity.

So unionists and nationalists now have to face up to the problem of finding a way of living together within the present constitutional arrangement, accepting it for all practical purposes as permanent. So too do Dublin, London and Washington. Anyone who fondly hoped that the Belfast Agreement would patch things over until demography provided the final solution in a decade or two must now return to the drawing board.

This newly confirmed demographic stability should encourage nationalists to a clearer realisation of what their acceptance of the consent principle actually means, and should help unionists worry less about imminent incarceration in an all-Ireland state, and think more about how to get on with their fellow northerners.

But only if the lessons are learned. The omens are not good, judging from Mark Durkan�s article in Friday�s Irish Times. Did the SDLP leader write his piece on the census before he had actually had time to read the published figures, basing it on the wildly inaccurate predictions of numerous journalists and politicians? Or was he trying to get in a pre-emptive strike to divert attention away from the reality revealed by the statistics.

A 53 per cent to 44 per cent superiority is not large. But just as Mr Durkan insists that the barest nationalist majority would be enough to trigger Irish unity, so the barest unionist majority ensures that Northern Ireland remains within the UK. In very general terms the two communities may be roughly equal in size, as Mr Durkan says, or at least approaching that position. But in the context of aspiring to Irish unity, which is what Mr Durkan�s article was all about, the Protestant and Catholic communities are not at all equal in size, and will not be for the foreseeable future. Given that opinion polls constantly confirm that up to one third of Northern Catholics would not support Irish unification, the chances of unity by consent ever must be approaching nil.

One can never say never, but no rational person could regard it as anything more than the remotest and most unlikely of prospects. Why then does Mr Durkan devote most of his article to discussing something which is not going to happen?

He goes to considerable lengths to assure unionists that they will be treated well within a united Ireland, according to the fundamental principles of �partnership, equality and mutual respect�. The Northern Assembly would continue, and so would the Executive. He promises them real power in a new Irish national parliament, and in a new Irish national government.

Leaving aside that these are things which Mr Durkan has no authority to promise � how power would be distributed within an all-Ireland parliament or government would be matters for those bodies to decide � he is dwelling in the realms of fantasy. The census results on which his article is based tell him clearly there is not going to be a united Ireland, certainly not in his lifetime.

When he took over the leadership of the SDLP Mr Durkan disappointed many observers by his enthusiastic endorsement of the traditional nationalist goal of Irish unity, something he has continued to stress. At the same time he claimed to be articulating a �new nationalism�, a distinctive element of which, in this era of consent, was to be persuading unionists of the virtues of Irish unification. Opinion polls, and election results, show no evidence that such persuasion is working. The census returns show that demography itself will not do the trick.

So far Mr Durkan has given little indication of how he will persuade unionists. The promise, to Northern politicians, of real power in Dublin instead of sideline seats at Westminster would have little or no appeal, even if it was in Mr Durkan�s power to promise it. The suggestion that in a united Ireland unionists would enjoy an end to constitutional uncertainty might sound like a rather sick joke to most unionists, if not a threat that they would be given no such certainty under the Belfast Agreement.

Mr Durkan in an earlier article referred to the Agreement as �a template for the future�, implying that it was not an end in itself, not a �settlement�. The suggestion then seemed to be that the real importance of the Agreement to nationalists was as a template for how unionists, and indeed the North, would be government inside a united Ireland. This is very much confirmed in this latest article.

A template for something that is not going to happen is not much use. The SDLP would be far better advised to concentrate on making a go of Northern Ireland, than planning how to run a united Ireland, an exercise more appropriate to the Flat Earth Society.

If they can look beyond the current popularity struggle with Sinn Fein they might see that by keeping Irish unity as their distinguishing political objective, they are condemning themselves to be, at best, perpetual runners up in Northern Ireland. They are also guaranteeing that political unionism will always be in first place, if only by a short head.

There are some people in the Republic of Ireland who don't want to be Irish, but they will always be Irish until they decide to become another nationality. The Northern Irish will ALWAYS be a part of the UK until the Northern Irish decide that they want a United Ireland. It is not for the British or Irish to decide. It's up to the Northern Irish. If the Northern irish decide to remain as part of the UK, why can't the rest of Ireland act more grown-up and immature about it, rather than blowing up kiddies in English cities? The Irish are becoming more like Arabs everyday.

Come tell us how you slew those brave arabs two by two
Like the Zulus they had spears and bows and arrows
How you bravely slew each one with your sixteen pounder gun
And you frightened them poor natives to their marrow

remembered the song "Come out ye black and tans", think it fits to this post

As I said, I do not want to have anything to do with you.
There's a huge difference between an immigrant and an invader, you should know that. And I do have nothing to add.
Now, will you juest move your ass out of here thank you.

I do not compare Ireland to any other place in this world because it's different, just different.
Now don't be smart guy, it doesn't suit you.
You know the problem, so do I, so let's not play stupid tricks. Find yourself some cosy Unionist forum and leave us in peace. We are serious here, we do not waste time playing games with brainless bastards.

Lancashire, I asked you to move.
I'm tired and I don't want to start arguing with someone who's not even ready to hear anything and moreover who thinks he's smart.

hmm, just thinking who betrayed the EU during the Iraq war...

England has broken EU law...

Perfectly right Fionas
and you, bro

Yeah, that's what they say indeed.

lanc ya fuckin prick. If you're gonna generalize, do it properly.

All Irish are terrorists.
All Scots are drunk.
All Welsh are sheep-shaggers.
All English are stuck-up snobs who lick the Queens arse.
All Americans are fat and stupid.
All French hate war.

And so? Because some people kill for it doesn't mean a cause is bad.
Thou Brits killed many Germans in Normandy and hunged some nazis, didn't you?