Just thought i'd make a trip back to the forum and see how everyone are doing these days. Crazy busy these days doing my thesis and studying for my finals. So anyway how are you all getting on! still listening to the rebel tunes I hope.

T�L

Oglaigh

Thats a deadly song! Think i prefer the similar song "ballinamore" sung by christy moore though! He done a great version of it when i went to see him in Leitrim last year!

Im heading off to frankfurt tonight for a piss up weekend, any one know some good places to go? Any places where I might be able to take in a bit of trad? I know this is a stupid time to ask cause i will prob be home by the time most people read it but ah well its worth a try!

I was listening to this beautifull piece of music in work as we are using it in a film we are making and it really reminds me of another song but i cant think of what for the life of me! I know this is a bit of a random post but anyone got any idea of a song that sounds similar?

There is a video on youtube.com with the song on it! Is this the version that you have heard?

Thats a nice way of doing things! Must give it a listen when I'm not on this stupid work computer that has no sound card!!

Check out this thread on this forum
/forum/index.php?s...ed&pid=9197
It provides the full lyrics and the details of the song such as the band who sing it! Hope this helps.

T�L

Sounds a bit along the lines of a soldiers return by the wolfe tones. Here are the lyrics for that, dunno if this is any help to u!

I went away to fight a war that small nations might be free
Got a soldiers guns and uniform to fight the enemy
I was trained to shoot my fellow before he got to me
And I danced with death in the mud and wept
And prayed my home to see.
Chorus:
So come over to me darling girl come here me Molly dear.
You are as welcome as the flowers in may you're welcome here to me.
No more I'll fire the musket shot or hear the cannon roar
I've done my time, now you'll be mine
I'm yours for ever more.
While in the trenches there I thought who starts these bloody -wars
And thought of these great Irishmen who died on these strange shores
Then a bomb did burst to the air it trust some shrapnel fire and blood
I escaped it then shot back at them and lay back in the mud.
Chorus:
While I was off in foreign lands, fighting other peoples' wars
Some gallant men were fighting here to free their native shore
You shot our leaders of 16 saw our city sacked and burned
Then you sent us in the Black and Tans to greet our home return.
Chorus:
I don't need your heroes welcome
I don't want your bugle call
No brass band no pipes and drums, no medal badge or star
But give me what you promised me when first I went to war
That's freedom for old Ireland and I'll go to fight no more.
Chorus

Welcome to the forum hope you find it as interesting as i do!!

T�L

Thanks for the link there

I think Fionn has hit the nail on the head! It is a method of the Irish to retain their identity under a government who is trying its hardest to sacrifice this to the European Union. Don't get me wrong i think a strategic alliance among European states has its benefits but we must be carefull to not allow it to progress in the manner it is, where Irish people are losing their right to determine their own future which brave men have struggled for over 800 years for!

Anyway sorry bout the ramblings and back to the point! I think rebel songs gave ordinary Irish people a peacefull way to protest and in the dark old days it gave them some sort of hope for the future. Thats how I would view therole of Irish music anyway, others may feel differently.

Personally I think their main objective was to highlight the injust, cruel and inhumane treatment of the Irish by the British government. This really put the Irish struggle on the International scene and showed up the injustice of Thatchers "rule". In this regards I personally do not think that it was a failure!!

Does anyone know if there is a specific reason why the signatory P O'Neill is used to sign off the official Oglaigh na hEireann statements? Is there a story behind it or is it just a random name they have continue to use like a codeword or the like?

As far as I know Joseph Cooke would be Seosamh Mac Dhabh�c! Hope Im not leading you wrong there mate i'm sure roidsear can confirm if thats correct! I think the pronunciation would be something like
sho sav vok gah vawk! Again that could be totally wrong!

I know the feeling I didn't cop the whole copyright thing when i first joined either!

Gaibh mo leithsceal where are my manners by the way welcome to the forum hope you enjoy being a member!

Gary Og posts on this forum so he may be able to advise you where you can purchase the song! Copyrighted material can't be posted on this for legal reasons, plus its not fair on the artists!

can't wait to see the film looks very interesting! not out here till the end of june thou i think!

wat a terrible injustice this case was. Eamon Cowan wrote a lovely song about the birmingham six called scapegoats which christy moore has recorded.

how bout if you post the words or phrases you dont understand and we can try explain them to you! its easier than going through the whole song!!

welcome mate! good taste in music already hope that you can discover other great irish bands through wat you read on this forum i know i have!!

Fair enough Tom I take your point and appreciate the fact that you respected mine also!!

Tom you will find very few irish people go to temple bar to listen to irish music! It is always regarded by locals as being solely for as you put it "plastic paddies"! Wearing a t-shirt saying H-1981 does in no way mean you are Irish nor neccesarily know much about our history! I would wager that man was not Irish as no Irish people wear t-shirts like that around dublin! The additional lyrics are rarely sung! The schoolboys section of irish rugby games used to always include it and rather than "hey baby let the free birds fly" it was sung "fuck the Queen let the free birds fly"! I also remember at the last election here that a certain Martin Ferris TD of sinn fein was carried above peoples shoulders upon election and the additional lyrics were sung in full, i.e. not just the sinn fein bit which you may expect, this was broadcast live on RTE News. Now Tom I am trusting that even you would not be as ignorant or brash to imply Martin Ferris is a "plastic paddy"!?!

I was in a pub in spain called the Libon Lions and they had a total ban on Irish music! It was owned by an english guy who owned a rangers bar down the road! Needless to say we never returned; we did however have a few sing-songs outside the rangers bar which was good craic!! I think it is crazy that Irish people can be banned from singing their national songs still! For instance the wolfe tones are still banned from being played on irish radio by the government! As another song goes "Let the people sing their stoires and their songs, the music of their native land"! How true! How can "the republican party" ban rebel music from the airwaves and still use this as their slogan on campaign posters! Hypocrites!!

On a seperate point Gary �g any plans to play in Dublin in the near future?

Gaibh mo Leith sceal where are my manners congratulations are in order keltic-banshee its nice this site is now back in good hands and i wish you all the best with it!

Ah right cool i must look in to their music and see what they are like!!!

Can I just ask Janus will you continue to leave the lyrics up for songs on the site that have political conitations? or are these to be removed also?