nerdh
Aug 15 2004, 01:40 PM
Saw that it is now 35 years anniversary of the British deployment of troops on north of Ireland so I wrote to Tony and told him what I think of the British treatment of the Irish people.
http://www.pm.gov.uk/output/Page821.asp
I hope it will help...
Christophe
Aug 17 2004, 10:46 AM
Keep on dreaming! It would surprise me if he would even know of the existance of your mail... Let alone he'll care...
Shadow
Aug 23 2004, 06:59 AM
The British don't do anything to the Irish people. The last time I heard, the Republic of Ireland got its independence in about 1921 and is now a democratic member of the European Union.
Shadow
Aug 23 2004, 07:15 AM
Americans - stop funding the IRA and contributing to a terrorist organisation as the War on Terror continues.
In the Northern Part of the Island of Ireland resides an ancient culture which has been greatly influenced by its proximity to Scotland as well as by the fact that it is a part of Britain. In addition to its British and Scottish components the culture of the Northern Part of the Island is also strongly influenced by Celtic/Irish Culture. Even though the province is Part of Britain the residents there are just as uniquely Northern Irish as the Scots are Scottish and the Welsh are Welsh and the English are English. Yet, due to the fact that the majority population of the province follows Protestant religions and that the majority of residents of the province have voted in FAIR AND DEMOCRATIC elections to remain a part of Britain, representatives of the province are not to be found in St. Patrick's Day Parades, they are not included, and they feel that they are not welcome.
Few even realise that the people of the province do not identify themselves with the colour green but rather with the colour orange, and, even though the flag of the Republic of Ireland contains stripes of both green and of orange to signify the two traditions of the Island you will not find any orange in St. Patrick's Day Parades.
Why is this? This is because St. Patrick's day parades are controlled by the belligerent culture of the Republic Of Ireland which not only SUPPORTS TERRORISM through fund-raisers and celebrates terror by including terrorist groups in the parades, but also does not recognise the right of the Protestant Orange Cultures of Northern Ireland to exist.
The observer will not generally find the parade blessed by an ecumenical religious service including Protestants but only with a Catholic Mass.
Does this have to be the case? No! Should Catholic and Republican intimidation cease, and ,a welcoming hand extended to the many Irish Americans of Northern Irish and Protestant descent I believe that they will be overjoyed to bring as much Orange to the parades as there is now Green!
The Orange musical and parade tradition is second to none! Great huge Lambeg drums and flute and fife bands are very popular together with large pictorial banners. The inclusion of the other part of the Ireland would be a colourful and valuable contribution.
For more on the musical traditions of Northern Ireland go to: To Ulster Music
Most Americans think of St. Patrick's day as a great day for all the Irish- why not make this a reality? A few invitations and a little less intimidation together with the removal of the inhumane representatives of terrorist organisations would make this possible! Do it now! It's easy!
Shadow
Aug 23 2004, 07:34 AM
There seem to be so many idiots writing about things they dont have any idea about. Lots of 'irish Americans' ranting on about 'making ireland free' Im irish and i am free, I have no interest in Northern Ireland becoming part of my country because its a sh*t hole. We got our freedom from the brits 80 years ago and Northern ireland remained part of Britain. Most people in the north want to stay british and if they want to change, they can vote. the IRA are murderers, just like the UDA and Al Quaida.
They are and were a curse on the British and Irish people. How many innocent people did the British goverment kill as compared to the IRA over the years. What was it all about any way! To Christian sects if you will that were upset because of a guy that lives in the middle of Italy. The Irish people have been there own worst enemy for so many years, what a waste of time. The IRA has taken advantage of the ignorance of people around the world who support these terrorists. They are no better than the Taliban or Al Qudea and should be treated accordingly. The majority of the people in Northern Ireland want to stay British, Nuff Said.
And you gotta love the IRA's sense of math (the 26+6=1 or whatever the hell it is. . .) News to you- Jesus wants you to learn basic math before you break any more commandments or treaties. Doesn't this group realize their increasing irrelavence? And yes, these dopes are terrorists because they are making warfare on the conscious minds of innocent people.
The IRA is downright bloodthirsty sometimes, and have even killed some Catholics in their bombs. Attacking military targets is one thing, blowing up 30 civilians is another.
Shadow
Aug 23 2004, 07:42 AM
The IRA are trash. They're trash when they hide behind the cloak of political respectability and they're trash when they lie dead from the bullets of the SAS. They provoked Bloody Sunday and the current inquiry is just a sop to the bigots by the British Left. According to some of your correspondents, they always tried to minimise civilian casualties, bombing town centres is only part of that caring philosophy. Okay, so they expressed "regret" recently for the children blown to bits, yet we are still waiting to see an apology. I hope the peace process is successful, but don't insult our intelligence by saying the IRA ever held the moral high ground.
For all those 'irish americans' and other foreigners who have never even set foot in Ireland but have childish, romanticised notions of 'the struggle'. As an irishman who has seen first hand the devastation a bomb planted in the middle of london can cause, your opinions are purile and insulting to the families of innocent victims. The IRA lost their legitimacy the day they switched their attentions from military to civilian targets. Whilst a united Ireland could be considered a legitimate aim, the IRA's methods, indiscriminate bombing, can never be justified. For those 'irish' americans in support of such tactics, I have to question your sanity and intelligence; especially as you have now, unfortunately, experienced an indescriminate terrorist attack first-hand. Clearly even this fails to quell your anti-english fervour as your sense of (misplaced)nationalism is more powerful than notions of humanity and morality.
Sean
Aug 23 2004, 08:17 AM
Shadow, stop eating that britsh propaganda that causes you to have a diarrhea here.
You look silly and stinky.
Shadow
Aug 23 2004, 08:40 AM
I don't have to listen to "British propaganda" to disagree with the killing of innocent people. What the fuck is this?
Shadow
Aug 23 2004, 08:43 AM
So, anyone who disagress with any person who puts Semtex into a dustbin only to have it blow the arms and legs off a pregnant woman has been listening to too much "British propaganda"? Aaah, I can see what I've been doing wrong over the years!
And, quite frankly, your signature is disgusting. If any of your countrymen came hear and read it they would be ashamed to be the same nationality as you, which I think is Irish.
Christophe
Aug 23 2004, 08:44 AM
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We got our freedom from the brits 80 years ago |
We?
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The British don't do anything to the Irish people. The last time I heard, the Republic of Ireland got its independence in about 1921 and is now a democratic member of the European Union. |
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Most people in the north want to stay british and if they want to change, they can vote. the IRA are murderers, just like the UDA and Al Quaida. |
You seem to forget WHO got your country independant in the first place... The IRA and compagnions... Don't remember? Well, history wasn't one of your best subjects at school I suppose?
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This is because St. Patrick's day parades are controlled by the belligerent culture of the Republic Of Ireland which not only SUPPORTS TERRORISM through fund-raisers and celebrates terror by including terrorist groups in the parades, but also does not recognise the right of the Protestant Orange Cultures of Northern Ireland to exist. |
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Im irish and i am free |
Well, you really seem to be proud about your country, in all your sliming ranting about those beautiful Orange marches...
P.S. And don't believe a second that tosser is Irish (or maybe he just escaped a loony's asylum?
). North-Irish loyalist?
Shadow
Aug 23 2004, 08:47 AM
So, to be Irish the requirements would be -
1) Support terrorism. Just let the fuckers bomb women and children indiscriminately (as long as it's not my wife or child). Anyone else's wife or child is okay.
2) Support the Unification of Ireland, even if the Northern Irish don't want it. Fuck democracy, because the republic of Ireland hates it.
Shadow
Aug 23 2004, 08:49 AM
Your mentality is - "If he's against terrorism, he's isn't Irish."
What a wonderful country Ireland is.
Christophe
Aug 23 2004, 08:50 AM
Sigh, I even wont bother... Where is James? I'm in the mood for DECENT discussion...
Christophe
Aug 23 2004, 08:52 AM
@ James: I wasn't the tosser starting with black and white views. I have nothing to sat to you. You have ruined your chances for a decent discussion...
Go ranting somewhere else... Your stupidity bores...
Sean
Aug 23 2004, 12:53 PM
Just my penis, so that I can stand there laughing as I piss on you all. Doc Freud had lost one of his patients!
Christophe, where do you get so much spare time? Teach me!
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And, quite frankly, your signature is disgusting. If any of your countrymen came hear and read it they would be ashamed to be the same nationality as you, which I think is Irish. |
Thanx Shadow! :
Patrick
Aug 23 2004, 07:58 PM
Sean, As minister of defence, feel free to execute these morons!
I grow tired of the 'brit humor'
Christophe
Aug 26 2004, 05:02 AM
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Christophe, where do you get so much spare time? Teach me! |
Are you kidding me?! I'm in the middle of my exams (retake) and you're telling me I have spare time?
Actually, "once in a while" I go "internetting" when I get bored of my books. Which is quite regularly!
You'll never see me much on the net in the school-year: to busy "socializing". Boozing in other words! That's why I have to retake exams...
Bloody moron I am! Instead of boozing and chasing women a whole year, I'd better spend some more time at school ... But hey, what can I do about it: it's in my genes!
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QUOTE And, quite frankly, your signature is disgusting. If any of your countrymen came hear and read it they would be ashamed to be the same nationality as you, which I think is Irish.
Thanx Shadow! |
And he took me for a French! The stupidity really... (No offence Charlotte! )
Patrick
Aug 27 2004, 04:19 AM
I had an Uncle that went to college on the '11 year' plan... and still never graduated
I think he Majored in 'Socializing'
Christophe
Aug 27 2004, 10:36 AM
Something in the genes of the family?! With me it certainly is!
Yeah, socializing: My biggest addiction... If it wouldn't be for the women and the booze...
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