As head of moderators it is my responsibility to monitor and oversee posts and threads. I share that responsibility with Charlotte. This website has always been pretty 'easy going'. We have encountered many 'different' people that were subject to being vanquished, Many people that could not take a hint, and now we seem to be experiencing a member who cannot make up his mind if he is BA or Irish Republican. It is called 'Divide and Conquer'. Once you have been pegged as being a lowlife, You immediately try and impress as many people as you can, pick and choose only the details that make you look good but make everyone else look bad, and then try and capitolize on it. In one breath he is blessing Maggie Thatcher and the BA and in the next he is condemning the Orange Order and Tony Blair. He is in a word.... refuse.

People in this forum know me and they know I am not the typical stereotyped 'American'. I have strong feelings toward a United Ireland and a strong dislike toward anyone that believes in what the BA is doing in Ireland as being 'legal' or 'neccessary'. When I think of all the lives that have been lost trying to keep the British Influence OUT of Ireland, it makes me mad as hell.

I would like to see a 'show of hands' here....... Tom McB GO HOME! Take all your sickening Loyalist BA garbage with you. You Obviously cant take the hint. You keep coming back to spew your Bullshit. Its not wanted. YOU AND YOUR BRITISH ARMY ARE NOT WANTED OR WELCOME! GO HOME!

This will be the very last reply to Tom. Do yourself a favor and never return here.

To respond to Patrick's post in some small way:

1. It is possible to love Ireland, wish Ireland well, Love the history and the songs and still be British. This Easter I shall Once again be visting the land of my forebears. Dublin only this time rather than the Hills of Donegal where the McB's originate. I'm sorry if this seems like dissembling to you Patrick but I refuse to fit any 2- dimensional stereotype.

2. I do detest the Orange order- with a vengeance, I see the bastards marching each summer here and I know them as sectarian and filled with hatred. Blair - I despise him for his cosying up to American Imperialism, for further destabilising the Middle East and thus delaying the birth of a Palestinian homeland.

3. Maggie- more complex than Blair- she got much wrong and much right, If I praise her for ridding Argentina of a fascist dictatorship it's only an attempt to show that there was more than one side to her.
You may point out the hunger strikes. I would point out that De Valera allowed far more hunger strikers to die.
This view is recognised in Ireland- I know I've taken part in discussion on it.
Clicky

4. I came upon this site looking for the lyrics to a song, I forget which. My interest in matters Celtic relates to Poetry, song and politics. I do hope that at some future point the loyalist peoples of the North will see that their place is best served in a united Ireland. I do not believe that the best way to get them there is through violence.
In that view I am at one with Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness and Mitchell McLauglin.

Patrick Sir- I do seem to get you heated up, I regret that, but I will not bow to childish insults about Penis size, nor being called a lowlife, nor refuse, nor shall I worry about the latest, childish, hands up if you hate Tom McB bit.
You have I believe various options, you could of course ban me- you have not done that- respect to you for that forebearance.
You could on the other hand accept that a love of Ireland and a desire to see a happy outcome to a story which is more than eight hundred years old and ongoing can have more than one voice.
The choice is yours.

I have only two words for ya, Patrick:cluin. cluin!

This topic is pretty much useless.

Yes, we are different but the solution is not to expell someone from this site...

As you can see I didnt expell him. But I will not put up with BS from him. Anyone who is or was BA who was assigned in NI and had to show 'Restraint' from killing, shooting, or harming unarmed civilians has no credibility with me. I am not impressed with him nor do I have any respect for him or people like him. As I said in my last post, I will not reply to his posts any longer.

Friendly advice: Always have respect for your opponents.

Bj�rn
(2006 will be my tenth year in the AF/NDLO)

Quite where Patrick has grabbed the idea that I was a member of the Armed Services mystifies me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
In case anyone doubts that Patrick is a fully fledged supporter of yankee imperialism.

From Patrick's own website.

I have yet to see him use this site to admit any error in America's imperialistic mission over the last 50 years.

Interesting my two posts on this thread have disappeared.
One which some of you have read where I hope I showed that I do love Ireland and despise the Orange order.
Where I stated that I hoped, in the future to see a united Ireland.
I can't be bothered typing it again.
Wonder how it got deleted (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

The second post pointed out that bit from Patrick's website:

Clicky

Which, I would contend, by falsely linking the illegal war in Iraq with 9/11 is a spurious attempt to cloak American Imperialism.

I also pointed out that his attempt to say that I am/was a member of the British Army is nonsense.

Funny that both posts disappeared.

Wonder how long this post will last?

This post should not be deleted... (or any that is...)

This post has been edited by Bj�rn: Jan 11 2006, 08:35 AM

The deleted posts has been recovered.

"One which some of you have read where I hope I showed that I do love Ireland and despise the Orange order.
Where I stated that I hoped, in the future to see a united Ireland."

I read much of your posts and I must say you were never clear on that point. One moment you were effectively defending the thought of a united Ireland, the other moment defending the British troops in there and the British government.
I thought TOO you were member of the BA (or were), that's what I concluded out of your posts and as I said, those were never very clear... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Patrick defends his country's troops... Now now, what a bad fellow he is... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Did you ever see him mentioning he defended the war in Iraq?
It's not because you defend the fellows who have the malchance to have to go to war because they're inlisted in army just to get a job, you defend their mission...
I abhor America and what it stands for, but I'm never condemning the common American...
You say he never condemned the war. No? Well, in discussions I had with him I know he does...
So just get of Patrick's 'tits'. You're just working on his nerves and I can perfectly understand why...
If there are two people in here who can whine about you two's imperialist countries in here, it's Charlotte and me... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Your troops are in Iraq: Our government was not so hypocritical as both yours...
Did you ever say 'Bliar'? Right... But that's about it...
I heard Patrick enough saying 'Hail to the thief'... (And right he is)
So???
Stop whining will ya...

HAIL TO THE THIEF (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I saw a bumper sticker that had a picture of Dubyah on it. It said "LIKE A ROCK"(only dumber) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

It's not contradictory. My logic is simple here, I do hope that in the long term the island is united politically but this must come about with the agreement of the majority in the North. I believe that the only solution is a political one. A notion which now finds favour with Sinn Fein. That, and only that would fulfill the UN's idea of the self determination of peoples. The troops were sent in in 1971 to stop the place developing into another Yugoslavia.



Though of course he loudly decries those he terms "Brits" and all British troops.


Guilty as charged: the why is contained in the sentence above.


Not arguing with that point (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)