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Bj�rn
post Dec 14 2005, 08:15 AM
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Referring to this thread: /forum/index.php?showtopic=825

Facts:
I don't have the time for this site anymore...
The concept may or may not be legal
Added focus from the music "mafia"

Conclusion:
Site closes down at January 31st 2006. If anyone want's to buy the domain / database it is possible. The price is set to €200/$250 for Cairde. At least twice as much for anyone else. If someone decides to buy it I can give the following info; Hosting not included, Forum license is expired but is legal to use, ads revenues from 30 -> 90$ per month.

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Patrick
post Dec 27 2005, 11:32 AM
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post Dec 28 2005, 02:54 PM
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What exactly would we be paying for?
And this whole copyright thing - most of our tabs and lyrics are traditional, therefore, no legal action can be taken against you for them. Also, the songs that are not traditional are by artists like Clannad, who are very happy to have their lyrics posted here! Why is this being taken so seriously, we are safe after all! We can only be harmed if we don't have the copyright details of a song. This site does not have to close as long as songs written by Clannad are written "� C. Brennan or which ever member wrote the song. I can find out very easyily who is the writer!
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post Dec 28 2005, 05:35 PM
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How many members do we have? We can't close this site. Tell me your thoughts or corrections [if any] on my post above!
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Chucky Armagh
post Dec 28 2005, 07:07 PM
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Bad news indeed.

OK I would be interested in participating in a buyout or failing that I'd consider buying it myself and maintaining it just as it is.

Just need some details if someone can email them to me, PM me for email address.
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post Dec 28 2005, 08:31 PM
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Look at post #11 and #13... For more details I guess you'll have to contact Bj�rn...
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post Jan 3 2006, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(Muireann @ Dec 14 2005, 07:40 PM) *

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Regarding the "money issue": What about all/some Cairde giving some amount to save the site from being shut down?


Brilliant Idea, I even propose something, provided everyone pays a wee bit and the prices are covered, I will even offer myself a voluntary, giving my PayPal account, and taking financial responsibility!!

I am not a regular on this site even though I would love to if my tight timetable allowed me to, sad to see this site closing down.

QUOTE(Charlotte @ Dec 19 2005, 10:36 AM) *

Why not just ask for the authorizations of all these singers? It would be completely legal then. And sure we can still keep all the traditional stuffs (the really old ones) as nobody owns the copyright. You should also check the date of creation of some songs. I know that according to laws, after a certain number of years (to be counted in decades though), a song falls into the public domain.

Plus we can still hold the forum. I don't think Republican opinions are copyrighted.


Think it's 50 years after the copyright holder's death, somewhere round there anyway!!

QUOTE(Sean @ Dec 26 2005, 11:25 AM) *

QUOTE(Patrick @ Dec 25 2005, 07:13 AM) *

I have not commented on the closing of this site mostly because I feel stunned. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) This is a great site with many great members. We all have busy lives (mine too) but we cant just let this site go. I havent time to maintain it much like my own website. If this site goes down, I will feel like I lost many very close friends. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) There must be an answer........ Anyone?


Whatever... Fellas, let's keep stayin' in contact... I can start a forum at my web-site for keepin' us togeather...


Sign me up, let me know by posting it here or PM me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) but it would be brilliant to keep this site alive!!

one question.

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Cairde: �200/$250
The rest: �400/$500


Is that what we would have to pay you? not being cheeky or nothing.

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If someone decides to buy it I can give the following info; Hosting not included, Forum license is expired but is legal to use


So what do we get for �400?
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Bj�rn
post Jan 5 2006, 09:15 PM
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What do you get?
  • celtic-lyrics.com|net|org (they expire 2006-04)
  • The complete database (lyrics, forum)
  • The source of the plugins to the forum (that I've written). You also get the rights for them...
  • A site that got more than $800 in Google AdSense revenues (2005)
  • The right to appoint admins/moderators (actually the right to do anything)
What don't you get?
  • A supported license for the forum (costs ~$70 per year)
  • A Google AdSense account. You will have to apply for one.
  • A functional admin interface to the database. It's been planned for a long time :-(
  • Documentation of the database. It just don't exist. You will have to create it
  • Webhosting. You will have to get a deal with a webhost...
  • Any support from me.
Payment using PayPal will not be approved.


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Bj�rn
post Jan 6 2006, 11:30 AM
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New info: Site will probably close around the 15th...
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Patrick
post Jan 6 2006, 11:31 AM
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Have you found someone to buy it?
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Bj�rn
post Jan 6 2006, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(Patrick @ Jan 6 2006, 12:31 PM) *

Have you found someone to buy it?

No.
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post Jan 7 2006, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(Bj�rn @ Jan 5 2006, 09:15 PM) *

What do you get?

  • celtic-lyrics.com|net|org (they expire 2006-04)
  • The complete database (lyrics, forum)
  • The source of the plugins to the forum (that I've written). You also get the rights for them...
  • A site that got more than $800 in Google AdSense revenues (2005)
  • The right to appoint admins/moderators (actually the right to do anything)
What don't you get?

  • A supported license for the forum (costs ~$70 per year)
  • A Google AdSense account. You will have to apply for one.
  • A functional admin interface to the database. It's been planned for a long time :-(
  • Documentation of the database. It just don't exist. You will have to create it
  • Webhosting. You will have to get a deal with a webhost...
  • Any support from me.
Payment using PayPal will not be approved.


Fair enough, get you now!!

I don't have the money, but if the people is interested we could join and do something.
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Chucky Armagh
post Jan 9 2006, 10:19 PM
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Patrick you have a PM

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Patrick
post Jan 9 2006, 11:47 PM
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The money isnt the problem here. I would be more than happy to split expenses.
Who would manage and do all the other Bjorn stuff? I dont know anything about the music/ lyrics/ authors/ etc... part of it.
I think that Bjorn has done a FANTASTIC job keeping this website as active as it has been since the start. Bjorn has seen and read every thread and trusted his moderators to do the same.
My issue is time. I am away from home more than I am at home. I do not have the time.
Bjorn entrusted me to be a moderator in his forum. I found that quite the honor. Thank you Bjorn. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
So what do we do?
P.S. Dont know about the rest of you, but at least thank Bjorn for puting up with all of us.
P.S.S....... Be creative (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Bj�rn
post Jan 11 2006, 12:25 PM
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The site is sold to a new owner. It will be offline from the 15th and for a few months. It will be relaunched as a 100% music site with no politics attached...

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post Jan 11 2006, 12:36 PM
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And who's the fortunate fellow?

Patrick and all the rest: best we do something of our own. I wouldn't like loosing the chance of a good talk with you guys/girls... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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