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Bj�rn
Posted: Jul 5 2003, 04:10 AM
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This forum is a replacement for the politics forum.

These are the rules of the forum (any on this site):

Under no circumstances must the forum be used for the communication of, reference to or linking to any of the following:

1. nudity, pornography, anything of a sexual, lewd, or obscene nature;
2. violations of any copyright or any other right of any third party;
3. threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory statements;
4. promotion of illegal activities (hacking, cracking, etc);
5. information or software containing or about any kind of virus;
6. hate speech or hate propaganda;
7. the collection of personal information for illegal purposes;
8. content deemed by us at our sole discretion to be harmful to us;
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Red Hand of Ulster
Posted: Jul 5 2003, 07:18 AM
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"6. hate speech or hate propaganda;"

Bjorn, please could you confirm that this category includes anti British hate speech and hate propaganda
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Bj�rn
Posted: Jul 5 2003, 07:21 AM
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it includes ANY hate speech or hate propaganda

Why don't you just register your username?

This post has been edited by Bj�rn on Jul 5 2003, 07:23 AM
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ChrisyBhoy
Posted: Jul 5 2003, 09:10 AM
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Bjorn, can I ask why you've given in to this guys mutliple personalites. Red Hand, Donal, Willem Van Oranje, Larry, Freedom, etc. We had a good board going, the occasional Brit comin and giving his side of the arguement. But then this guy comes and starts a whole load of bullshit that results in the Politics forum being removed. And now we have a new forum back and we cant say anything about our political views or anything. The guy isn't even registered yet he has had a hand in removing the Politics forum and silencing our views.
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Bj�rn
Posted: Jul 5 2003, 09:13 AM
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The rules is a copy of my ISPs AUP.
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Guest_nylonpaddy
Posted: Jul 5 2003, 09:34 AM
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Lo peeps

Ow's it anging

will be in your green and pleasent in the next few days for a wedding and a little motorcycle training, quite looking forward to it.

till then chill ;)
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ChrisyBhoy
Posted: Jul 5 2003, 11:20 AM
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But Bjorn, the Politics forum didn't have all these rules.

We were allowed to talk about your political stance and discuss our views openly.
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Noel
Posted: Jul 5 2003, 11:42 AM
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A suggestion.......maybe something at the start like...If there is a problem it is wit the author an not the website, this website does not take any.........for such n such said

maybe something lik that.
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Bj�rn
Posted: Jul 5 2003, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE (ChrisyBhoy @ Jul 5 2003, 07:20 PM)
But Bjorn, the Politics forum didn't have all these rules.

We were allowed to talk about your political stance and discuss our views openly.

Maybe that's because I never read the AUP?

Sorry; I have to use them.
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Bj�rn
Posted: Jul 5 2003, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE (Noel @ Jul 5 2003, 07:42 PM)
A suggestion.......maybe something at the start like...If there is a problem it is wit the author an not the website, this website does not take any.........for such n such said

maybe something lik that.

That's not enough. I'm always responsible for the content of the site.
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Charlotte
Posted: Jul 5 2003, 12:13 PM
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1. nudity, pornography, anything of a sexual, lewd, or obscene nature;
2. violations of any copyright or any other right of any third party;
3. threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory statements;
4. promotion of illegal activities (hacking, cracking, etc);
5. information or software containing or about any kind of virus;
6. hate speech or hate propaganda;
7. the collection of personal information for illegal purposes;
8. content deemed by us at our sole discretion to be harmful to us

1. There's nothing sexual in our love for Ireland
2. We should just take care of the lyrics we're posting, but it's gonna be alright
3. Have you heard that, Red Hand, Larry, Freedom, etc??
4. Read above.
5. No trouble
6. There's no hate nor propaganda in the will of the Irish to be free. If there is any hate, it's the one for injustice.
7. Quite normal, isn't it?
8. Well, I should take a better French/English dictonnary.. lol :lol:

Slan go foill
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Fianna
Posted: Jul 5 2003, 12:49 PM
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Does your ISP check the content of every post on this site?

Does it even check this site at all?

Seriosly Bjorn, is this like a nudge, nudge, wink, wink, "obey the rules", nudge nudge, wink wink, kinda thing? Are you gonna enforce them? Cause a few of them are gonna completely stem any kinda discussion that was goin on here. And that'd be a shame cause this forum was a pretty open forum where you could express any view you had, no matter how warped. There ain't many forums like that around.

You said you didn't read the AUP before, so why have you read it now!? Can't you just conveniently forget about them?!

Sl�n tamaill
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ChrisyBhoy
Posted: Jul 5 2003, 03:25 PM
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Yeah

"I'm in violation of your AUP? I didn't know you had an AUP!" :ph34r:


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Patrick
Posted: Jul 5 2003, 07:02 PM
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I think that by having an UNREGISTERED name like "RED HAND OF ULSTER" is not only an insult to any decent Republican, but to allow any posts from such a name not only INSULTS all of us, but breeds contempt. He/they are Obviously trouble-makers (as their past has proven) and to allow ANY posts from any of them would DEFINATELY prove detrimental to the advancement of this forum. Obviously, this little piss-ant has monitored this site day after day after day just waiting to get his little "Two cents worth" in. This forum started a long time before these "maggots" infested here. Ever since, It has been nothing but "ASS-ACHES". I have already initiated the investigators into this "supposed" consultant. He HAS BEEN and still IS on their list of trouble makers. I suggest to EVERYONE just to completly ignore him/them and DO NOT REPLY TO ANYTHING HE/THEY SAY! Yes, He will try and come back as some other "weird loyalist" name, but there is a pattern to him and we have already tracked that. He is easy to see. Bjorn, this does NOT violate anything in the rules.
This is the BIGGEST Problem that you have had since day 1.
I say we just Ignore the Prick and carry on with our forum.
Let me put this another way.... Would you plant a garden, only to have someone tell you when and how to grow it?
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Willem van Oranje
Posted: Jul 6 2003, 04:13 AM
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Bj�rn

I see Red Hand has now registered, and you will see that I registered in early June. As I think I mentioned once before I know Red Hand, I do not know Freedom or Larry, and for what its worth I think Larry's threats of denial of service were wrong, apart from anything else I expect other sites on the same server would have been affected.

Up to now I haven't heard much from you on the site but my impression is that you are a decent guy who wants to run a website about Irish music. If that is the case then do you really want to allow people like Patrick and Noel - who represent the most vicious extremist fringe of Irish Republicanism - to hijack it?

Red Hand told me about this site, he found it because a Google search took him to a page in guestbook which you have made read only. The Google search was for a phrase which Unionists will look up from time to time so you you'll always find some of us stumbling upon your site every so often.

When I had a look through the old guestbook I found it to be particularly vitriolic. I can remember one particular post by Patrick in the guestbook which I believe violated rules 1, 3 and 6 of your acceptable use policy. May I ask if the illegal activities which rule 4 forbids you from promoting include murders, bombings and other acts of terror.

This will be my last post as I think we have made our point. I will try to convince Red Hand of this too although he has a much more personal reason to hate the IRA than I have, they shot a member of his family.
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