I'm sure you guys can help me out here, thanks in advance.
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Greetings fellows, I'm an 18 year old student from right outside Stockholm, Sweden. I just happened to come across this place while looking for some lyrics, and thought that I might as well sign up and post. My interest in Irish traditional music is, to tell the truth, not much older than six months, and is at the moment rather limited to The Pogues and The Dubliners. This music has, however, triggered somewhat of an affection to everything Irish at the moment, and I want to find som more artists. So what I thought was that I should ask som of you people were to go from here. I have been thinking of checking out The Clancy Brothers, but I haven't really got around to it just yet. My musical interest is, apart from the traditional stuff, mainly oriented to heavy metal and the likes, and I'm not looking for any popular rubbish, i want the genuine thing.
I'm sure you guys can help me out here, thanks in advance.
I'm sure you guys can help me out here, thanks in advance.
The Wolfe Tones, Eire Ogg, Mary Black, Sinead O'Connor (traditionnal, rather than her own songs), The Chieftains, Seanchai, and so many other names I could give!
Names of songs maybe?
The Ballad of Mairead Farrel
The Foggy Dew
Paddy's Lament
Suil A Ruin
He Moved Through the Fair
Erin Go Bragh
Sunday Bloody Sunday (John Lennon, not U2!)
The IRA will set them free
Go on Home British Soldiers
Rifles of the IRA
God Save Ireland
Come out ye Black and Tans
Four Green Fields
My Heart is in Ireland
The Ballad of Joe Mc Donnel
Song for Ireland
I'll Tell me Ma (yes, I like this one
)
Michael Collins
Ireland Unfree
Only Our Rivers Run Free
James Connolly
Mo Ghile Mear
Irish Ways and Irish Laws
Dirty Old Town
Seven Drunken Nights (some old memory of a completely drunk man singing it over and over in one of my village's pubs)
Padraig Pearse
Bobby Sands MP
Fuck the British Army
and so many others...
Names of songs maybe?
The Ballad of Mairead Farrel
The Foggy Dew
Paddy's Lament
Suil A Ruin
He Moved Through the Fair
Erin Go Bragh
Sunday Bloody Sunday (John Lennon, not U2!)
The IRA will set them free
Go on Home British Soldiers
Rifles of the IRA
God Save Ireland
Come out ye Black and Tans
Four Green Fields
My Heart is in Ireland
The Ballad of Joe Mc Donnel
Song for Ireland
I'll Tell me Ma (yes, I like this one
)Michael Collins
Ireland Unfree
Only Our Rivers Run Free
James Connolly
Mo Ghile Mear
Irish Ways and Irish Laws
Dirty Old Town
Seven Drunken Nights (some old memory of a completely drunk man singing it over and over in one of my village's pubs)
Padraig Pearse
Bobby Sands MP
Fuck the British Army
and so many others...
if you want to try some "modern traditional" folk (irish and scottish) than you should try "Flogging Molly", "Dropkick Murphys", "The Real McKenzies", "Young Dubliners" or "Runrig"
Thanks a lot guys!
Charlotte - Thank you for your enthuisiasm, but you must realise that my access to this music after all is rather limited...
Fionas - Thanks to you as well, however the word "modern" when it comes to music generally sends chills down my spine, and I'm not talking about the good ones....
Bj�rn - Nice to see another scandinavian, ans thanks for the links. Especially King Laoghaire was interesting since they're from around here... I do however think that the guy's obious swedish accent is a bit disturbing. Maybe I should aim for the singing job...
Charlotte - Thank you for your enthuisiasm, but you must realise that my access to this music after all is rather limited...
Fionas - Thanks to you as well, however the word "modern" when it comes to music generally sends chills down my spine, and I'm not talking about the good ones....
Bj�rn - Nice to see another scandinavian, ans thanks for the links. Especially King Laoghaire was interesting since they're from around here... I do however think that the guy's obious swedish accent is a bit disturbing. Maybe I should aim for the singing job...
Now to today's biggest question - where the hell did I leave my wallet?
You may check Sweeney�s Men and Wolfe Tones on the web. And if you like Pogues-style music, give a try to Greenland Whale Fisheries
Btw, as a Pogues fan, you might also like to visit their website with another lively discussion forum and lots of other info.
Btw, as a Pogues fan, you might also like to visit their website with another lively discussion forum and lots of other info.
Hey Suzana!
I started of like that, too...i still love everything Irish, from the beer over the music to the history, welcome to the club of Hiberniaphiles.
my advice is :
1
get the WOLFE TONES live cd "Live alive oh" i got it like a month ago and i cen't stop hearing it
2
get to kazaa, type in "irish" "irish rebel" "irish republican" and you'll find heaps of stuff you'll most definitly LOVE!
3
show your love! get a fitting shirt or a sticker for your car - people will come up to you wanting to talk or help you - at least that's what happened to you
4
make a cd for your local pub! it result in you gettin a free guinness and having your favorite songs in the air along with it
I started of like that, too...i still love everything Irish, from the beer over the music to the history, welcome to the club of Hiberniaphiles.
my advice is :
1
get the WOLFE TONES live cd "Live alive oh" i got it like a month ago and i cen't stop hearing it
2
get to kazaa, type in "irish" "irish rebel" "irish republican" and you'll find heaps of stuff you'll most definitly LOVE!
3
show your love! get a fitting shirt or a sticker for your car - people will come up to you wanting to talk or help you - at least that's what happened to you
4
make a cd for your local pub! it result in you gettin a free guinness and having your favorite songs in the air along with it
Hiberniaphile... Hah, sounds quite fitting i must admit. That brings me on to a completely different subject: What about the scottish football club Hibernian? Was it founded by exiled Irishmen or something?
I also heard something else connected with scottish football the other day: About two weeks ago a group from my school went to Northern Ireland, and appearantly one of the students got clocked by a protestant one night because he (the swedish student) said that he liked Henrik Larsson (well, of course...) and thereby Glasgow Celtic. This makes me wonder wether the rivality between Rangers and Celtic in Glasgow is somehow connected to the anatgonism between protestants and catholics in Northern Ireland?
I guess this could explain why both Hibernian and Celtic play in green...
I also heard something else connected with scottish football the other day: About two weeks ago a group from my school went to Northern Ireland, and appearantly one of the students got clocked by a protestant one night because he (the swedish student) said that he liked Henrik Larsson (well, of course...) and thereby Glasgow Celtic. This makes me wonder wether the rivality between Rangers and Celtic in Glasgow is somehow connected to the anatgonism between protestants and catholics in Northern Ireland?
I guess this could explain why both Hibernian and Celtic play in green...
Yes I'd say there's something about that. It is widely known that Catholics tend to support Celtics whereas Protestant more support Rangers. For the Celtics, it can be easily understood : it was funded I think by an Irish priest (wasn't he?) from Donegal for Irish exilees to play soccer. As for Rangers I have no idea !
hence the "hampden in the sun" song praising the 7:1 victory of Celtic vs Rangers :-D
Oh, I see. I suppose that goes for Hibernian as well then?
QUOTE(Charlotte @ Nov 21 2004, 06:17 PM)
Yes I'd say there's something about that. It is widely known that Catholics tend to support Celtics whereas Protestant more support Rangers. For the Celtics, it can be easily understood : it was funded I think by an Irish priest (wasn't he?) from Donegal for Irish exilees to play soccer. As for Rangers I have no idea !
Please allow a Scottish Catholic football fan to elucidate.
Celtic were indeed founded by brother Walfrid
Find out here.
Info on Rangers here.
Sadly, too many morons in Scotland use Celtic and Rangers as a vehicle for sectarian hatred. Wearing the badge of their respective club as a badge of allegiance to political ideas which belong in the 17th century wars of religion rather than the 21st century.
Two thoughts on Charlotte's voluminous list.
Dirty old town is English- Ewan McColl, the writer of the song, was born in Salford in the indutrial part of England and "Dirty old town"- cracking song- reflects this background.
Can't believe that you missed "Four Green fields"
Dirty old town is English- Ewan McColl, the writer of the song, was born in Salford in the indutrial part of England and "Dirty old town"- cracking song- reflects this background.
Can't believe that you missed "Four Green fields"
But I like Dirty Old Town... 
Four Green Fields and many many others, my list wasn't exhaustive.
Four Green Fields and many many others, my list wasn't exhaustive.
QUOTE(Charlotte @ Nov 23 2004, 11:06 AM)
Quite right too- it's a wonderful song- but English.
A wee seasonal question to all posters.
And the link is seasonal- after all, Sunday is the first unday in Advent.
What's the Seasonal link between dirsty old town and the Pogues.
It's one of the best Christmas records ever.
The best Christmas song ever is Fairytale of New York (Shane MacGowan / Jem Finer)
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It was Christmas Eve babe
In the drunk tank
An old man said to me, won't see another one
And then he sang a song
The Rare Old Mountain Dew
And I turned my face away
And dreamed about you
Got on a lucky one
Came in eighteen to one
I've got a feeling
This year's for me and you
So happy Christmas
I love you baby
I can see a better time
When all our dreams come true
They've got cars
Big as bars
They've got rivers of gold
But the wind goes right through you
It's no place for the old
When you first took my hand
On a cold Christmas Eve
You promised me
Broadway was waiting for me
You were handsome
You were pretty
Queen of New York City
When the band finished playing
They howled out for more
Sinatra was swinging
All the drunks they were singing
We kissed on the corner
Then danced through the night
The boys of the NYPD choir
Were singing 'Galway Bay'
And the bells were ringing
Out for Christmas day
You're a bum
You're a punk
You're an old slut on junk
Living there almost dead on a drip
In that bed
You scum bag
You maggot
You cheap lousy faggot
Happy Christmas your arse
I pray God
It's our last
I could have been someone
So could anyone
You took my dreams
From me when I first found you
I kept them with me babe
I put them with my own
Can't make it all alone
I've built my dreams around you
In the drunk tank
An old man said to me, won't see another one
And then he sang a song
The Rare Old Mountain Dew
And I turned my face away
And dreamed about you
Got on a lucky one
Came in eighteen to one
I've got a feeling
This year's for me and you
So happy Christmas
I love you baby
I can see a better time
When all our dreams come true
They've got cars
Big as bars
They've got rivers of gold
But the wind goes right through you
It's no place for the old
When you first took my hand
On a cold Christmas Eve
You promised me
Broadway was waiting for me
You were handsome
You were pretty
Queen of New York City
When the band finished playing
They howled out for more
Sinatra was swinging
All the drunks they were singing
We kissed on the corner
Then danced through the night
The boys of the NYPD choir
Were singing 'Galway Bay'
And the bells were ringing
Out for Christmas day
You're a bum
You're a punk
You're an old slut on junk
Living there almost dead on a drip
In that bed
You scum bag
You maggot
You cheap lousy faggot
Happy Christmas your arse
I pray God
It's our last
I could have been someone
So could anyone
You took my dreams
From me when I first found you
I kept them with me babe
I put them with my own
Can't make it all alone
I've built my dreams around you
Totally agree! 
For those who have not heard it yet, here is the link. Click on "best Pogues song".
For those who have not heard it yet, here is the link. Click on "best Pogues song".
[quote=Bj�rn,Nov 24 2004, 10:02 AM]
The best Christmas song ever is Fairytale of New York (Shane MacGowan / Jem Finer)
Indeed- the correct credit is to Kirsty McColl and the pogues.
And the late kirsty, may God rest her soul, was the daughter of Ewan McColl, who wrote "Dirty Old Town", which is where we started.
Nice appraisal of Kirsty here.
And if you ever get a chance to hear her version of "New England", do so, it's magnificent.
The best Christmas song ever is Fairytale of New York (Shane MacGowan / Jem Finer)
Indeed- the correct credit is to Kirsty McColl and the pogues.
And the late kirsty, may God rest her soul, was the daughter of Ewan McColl, who wrote "Dirty Old Town", which is where we started.
Nice appraisal of Kirsty here.
And if you ever get a chance to hear her version of "New England", do so, it's magnificent.
OK I'm lost.
My version of Dirty Old Town is sung by a group called the Irish Descendants.
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