hey
can anyone recommend some nice movies on irish/scottish/celtic issues (specially war/battle/conflict related ones)?
what comes to my mind is (already mentioned here) 'bloody sunday', 'michael collins', 'devil's own', 'brave heart'... i have a feeling that i've missed a lot of this kind of valuable stuf here tho...

In the name of the Father by Jim Sheridan was a nice one too.

And I'd recommand this play entitled A Day and a Night about Padraig Pearse :
http://celticfringe.net/day.htm

Theres one with Sean Bean and Harrison Ford, but I cant mind the name.


All the other films mentioned are fuckin crackers too.

"Patriots" , "Michael Collins" , "Mr. Rat" , "Leprechaun 1,2,3,4 и 5" , "Informant", "General" , "Gone with Fire", "Devil's Own" (that's what you have ment, Fianna), "Into the West", "Far and Away", "Hear my Song", "Patriot's Games", "Everything about my father", "Rob Roy", "In The Name Of The Father", "The Field", "The Marchmaker", "Snakes and Ladders", "Straight to Hell", "Eat the rich", "Nephew", "The Committments", "Titanic" , "The Running Target", "The Boondocks Saints"...
adutis, that gonna be enough for beginning...

I've heard that they're making a second part of the boondock Saints, or is it out already?

'Ronin' has something to do with the IRA, and the car chases were excellent, but I think its not what you meant

Ronin! lol

I thought that was a gas film!

There was a bit in it where De Niro's trying to make a deal in exchange for this suitcase this guy has (think the suitcase had biological or nuclear plans in it or something), and the guy wouldn't take what De Niro was offering, so he says something like "If you don't give me what I want, I'll give it to the Irish!" De Niros response? "No! No, don't do that!". Well it was something like that anyway.

But yeah, the car chases were class. And De Niro was in it, so that in my opinin makes it a classic!

Adutis, where are you from? Is there any way of getting TG4 on satellite where you are? TG4 is Irelands (only) Irish language station, it'd be perfect for that kind of thing, and the programmes are always subtitled in English.

Sl�n a chairde

This is a great movie : H3

A Prison. A Conflict. A Part of History

H 3 is based on the events of the 1981 Hunger Strike in the H-Blocks of Long Kesh. In Europe�s most secure prison, 400 young men must make a choice� Between life or Justice. Time is running out. Seamus Scullion is the man chosen to select the names of his fellow prisoners in the H3 prison block who are ultimately prepared to die for what they believe in. A Powerful and uplifting film about friendship, loyalty and courage.

You can buy it on Sinn Feins Bookshop site.

"Some Mothers Son" is worth a look too.

Can't remeber exactly what it's about, but it's set during the 81 Hunger Strikes. I think it's about Bobby Sands mother, or one of the prisoners mother, and how she shares her feelings and outlooks on the event with a Protestant friend. I think. I didn't see all of it...

Oh yeah, and The Boxer was on on two nights ago. So if you like your Northern movies mixed with some...boxing...then you're onto a winner!

Sl�n

"Snatch"!!! - Brad Pitt there is a tough tinker

Snatch.

Brad Pitt being American sounded like a perfect Pad.

Great Film

Snatch was class, but the knacker accent was shit.

i am greatful for all the recommendations, especially to Sean. some of those movies i saw, some not. as for satelite programs- i do not possess a TV, so 'no go' here however, i have lots of friends and acquaintances and large movie collections (dvd, vhs, cd's, etc) are available to me, thus i hope i'll be able to fulfill my needs there
(someone asked where were i from- i dwell in Lithuania- great land, don't be mistaken- me not having a TV set is a very big exception )

Hi there Adutis and welcome to the forum.

I am curious to know why someone from Lithuania has an interest in all things Irish. How are we perceived in your country and what do people there know and think of the Republican cause.

I think it's fantastic that we have so many nationalities here showing an interest and giving their support.

All the best

Daithi

[QUOTE]I think it's fantastic that we have so many nationalities here showing an interest and giving their support.


Well here are really many nationalities... but I think like many Germans too... that the British have nothing to do in Ireland... It's just like the situation we had in Germany once... until we were reunificated! Sometime Ireland will be a nation once again

I'll be in Ireland in June in Dublin and in Westport... looking forward to it

short break: what is Lithuania
sounds like something near jamaica...

I'll make a trip to Ireland this year, too

Lithuania is near russia :-P It's between Estonia and Latvia... I am not sure if it belongs to scandinavia... It's definetly not near Jamaica

adutis, what town are you from? I've been in Vilnius and Kaunas...

As your asking about Lithuanians, I�ll pop in my story here also

To be honest, it started by me listening to american marches
I stumbled over "Garry Owen", and figured it had a nice ring to it, so I checked the "history" behind it... Eventually I found out it was an Irish folksong from Limerick!
After that I stumbled on some more Irish songs and such... After some time, I listened to "The Rebellion of 1916" with Robbie O�Connel and the Clancy bros... That song got me very interested in the Easter rising (Foggy Dew with the Chieftains and Sinead O�Connor is GRAND!), and after that I started reading away
After some time I had read like hell, and bought some books, watched some movies... "Bloody Sunday" got me started on the sectarian violence and the IRA campaigns after 1922!
So now, I�m a fullhearted Irish Republican!

People in Finland mostly have the same bullshit view on the IRA... I.e. "some odd terrorist group in Northern-Ireland who bomb British civilians"
But I�ve been on a little "propaganda campaign"... Or should I call it "telling the truth"-campaign, and after this, all my friends are more educated, and some of them are active supporters of Irish Republicanism!

I�m also trying to get our history teachers to tell more of the republican struggle and specific events... I.e. Bloody Sunday! I�m gonna get the teachers to show "Bloody Sunday (2001)" in school!

That�s that!

(sorry for the long post)

no no mo chara, not "Sean Sabhat from Garry Owen", but "Garry Owen"...
You know, the march?


7th Cavalry March - Garry Owen

Let sons of Bacchus be not dismayed,
come join me each jovial blade,
come sing and dance and lend me your aid and help me with the chorus!

For instead of spa we�ll drink brown ale and pay the reckonin on the nail! No man for debt shall go to jail, for Garry Owen in glory!

We will make the mayor and bailiffs run,
we will cheat the sheriff out of fun,
we are the boys no man dares to dun if he values his own skin!

Chorus

We�ll break the windows and break the doors,
their watch will call by threes and foors,
then we�ll let the doctor make his cures while we take away with our bruises!

Chorus



That�s Garry Owen for you

You�re thinking about "It was on a dreary new years eve as the shades of night came down. A lorry load of Volunteers approached the border town..." Sean South from Garry Owen... Which is sang to the tune of Rory O�Connor or something...

"For Rory (something) goes to die, on the bridge of Toole today!"

I have rcalled one more great movie: "GENERAL"
adutis, I'm may be wrong, but ash izhgyarchou truputi diaktinis

adutis -

finally watched 'bloody sunday'. great movie. almost documentary. strong, intense, shocking.

(offtopic: two of me friends went to live in Limerick for about half a year to earn some chips for their further journey to Mexico - i hope they'll find me some pogues/dubliners/clansybros DVDs to send me to Lithuania, cuz i managed to download mp3, but never any visual material )

I've seen "Michael Collins" yesterday again! That's the moovie!

just saw "Michael Collins".
not too much of a great movie, but an interesting story. (and as far as i know - pretty much close to the facts, except maybe the thing that he wasn't the only one main figure that won the war as may seem from the movie)
i wonder:
what do ye think of M.Collins and 1921 treaty? was that the right step? or were they supposed to fight till victory or death? cuz that was an important issue in the film...

De Valera was a real politician, I'd say. He did what he had to do and did it with intelligence. Collins knew what he was doing too, he knew it would condemn it to death. But still, he did what he had to do and did it with courage.

^Somebody ban this gimp

De Valera split the people instead of uniting them...

he brought hope, but also lies, and treachery