Republican Support Outside The Uk, how can we help
Irelands_Son |
Jan 13 2004, 03:06 PM
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Soldier of Ireland Group: Celtic Lyrics Cairde Posts: 92 Joined: 22-December 03 From: Canada Member No.: 141 |
I was wondering why most republican groups ie. Republican Sinn F�in do not allow members outside the Uk? Im asking this because until recently I've been a member of Sinn F�in Canada also known as F.O.S.F.C Friends Of Sinn F�in Canada. I want to support a Republican Party but we have nothing here That I know of besides SF.
I have been involved in fund raising for SF, distrubution of information leaflets etc. I guess what Im trying to say is that the fight for Irish freedom is not just in the streets of Ireland but also in the hearts and minds of all of us. I for one can not get a Canadian passport because Im banned from The USA but thats another story. Im trying to get an Irish passport because my grandfather came to Canada so Im told that Im eligable. If I can be of any help here outside of home then please let me help! At the FOSFC dinner I attend in November 2003 I had a chance to meet Martin McGuinness in person and have a personal chat with him, I left there feeling very betrayed after all that I have done for Sinn F�in in my area! I would like to maybe help distribute a republican paper here as there are many who have left Ireland but have not forgot what continues to go on! email me with Ideas of what if anything I can do please! [email protected] |
Fianna |
Jan 13 2004, 04:10 PM
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�glach Group: Celtic Lyrics Cairde Posts: 298 Joined: 18-May 03 From: Baile �tha Cliath, Saorst�t Eireann Member No.: 39 |
Yeah, it's difficult for people outside of Ireland to feel like they're contributing to Republicanism, even for people in Britain.
But from what you said in your post you're active on the street, in the public eye if you're distributing leaflets. And that's important, even if it just makes one person in Canada aware of what's going on. Every mind won over is a step closer to victory. But in fairness what more do you want to do?! Selling a newpaper would be great but I can't imagine there'd be much demand for it. The best thing to do would be to get together with like minded people in your area, if there are any. Then you's could throw about some ideas, maybe even set up an unofficial Cumann of sorts. I know that in Ireland Sinn F�in will accept a Cumann if there is a minimum of five members. At least that's what it was when I was a member. As for Republican Sinn F�in...they hardly have the resources to keep an operation going in Dublin, let alone Ireland, let alone Canada! The money involved in having an international membership is just out of the question. But still, keep up the good work, every bit helps. Sl�n |
Irelands_Son |
Jan 13 2004, 04:19 PM
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Soldier of Ireland Group: Celtic Lyrics Cairde Posts: 92 Joined: 22-December 03 From: Canada Member No.: 141 |
There are about 60 people that I have met so far far that are like minded. We get together about 15 of us any way and we passout flyers at the St.Patricks Parade in Toronto but they are more into the whole GFA and Im not so sometimes we disagree on how Ireland will be united. They are devote SF followers.
So for now I will continue to try and educate people here about what really happened and is happening home! :ph34r: CIRA |
Sean |
Jan 14 2004, 01:34 AM
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Russian-Irish Group: Celtic Lyrics Cairde Posts: 257 Joined: 10-April 03 From: Moscow, Russia Member No.: 17 |
Good luck, a chara! That's the same that we are doing here in Russia. We have no any other possibilities to support SF as to give the information on the web-site, translating the provo rebel songs and to perform them, keep argueing to a buttheads who prefer to equalize the situations: Russia - england; Eire - Chechnya. We had severed relations with bloody greedy organizations as Russian-Celtic Society - they got a fever for makin' shows with celtic syled musicians and dancers and having a super profit for that. We are alone here going to rise a new structure, honest and without fashionable irish glamour. Up the RA! |
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Fianna |
Jan 14 2004, 03:54 AM
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�glach Group: Celtic Lyrics Cairde Posts: 298 Joined: 18-May 03 From: Baile �tha Cliath, Saorst�t Eireann Member No.: 39 |
Fifteen active members, that's great. Do you have regular meeting or any kind of group structure? If you wanted to take it seriously you could easily form some kind of Republican awareness/pressure group.
The Sinn F�in group in my college only has about 15 members, and they get a grant from the college. Hell, you could probably apply for a grant from the US Government, really get the ball rolling! Well, maybe not. But you could definately form some form of group with a bit of work. |
Charlotte |
Jan 14 2004, 04:38 AM
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Unity, Freedom and Peace supporter Group: Celtic Lyrics Moderator Posts: 630 Joined: 29-March 03 From: Paris, France Member No.: 6 |
That's a very good question how can we help when out of Ireland (specially when young, like me). I do what I can, which is not much, signing petitions online or asking people in the street to sign some petitions, and informing on forums or around me of what's going on in Ireland. I wrote to SF thinking maybe they can tell me what I can do more to help, I got no answer. And the people who were most likely to have an answer for me, didn't know. Does that mean there's no way for me to help ? I do a little, sure, but I'm feeling quite useless.
When I'm in Ireland, I'll join a republican group but until then ????? Does anyone have any brilliant idea for a young Parisian supporter? |
Sean |
Jan 14 2004, 05:59 AM
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Russian-Irish Group: Celtic Lyrics Cairde Posts: 257 Joined: 10-April 03 From: Moscow, Russia Member No.: 17 |
I've got more then 15 men. We have a branches in other russian towns and even abroad - in Ukraine.
Here is our column at last St. Padraig's Day Parade in Moscow. (IMG:http://www.belfast.ru/art/00007.jpg) (IMG:http://www.belfast.ru/art/00005.jpg) |
LAN' |
Jan 14 2004, 07:39 AM
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L Group: Member Posts: 62 Joined: 16-April 03 Member No.: 23 |
reading your posts here. I have to for a change agree with Fianna.
There is not much more you can do but deliver papers, leaflets or form groups. If people outside of Ireland really want to do soemthing, then they can only do it if they actually come to Ireland and see for themselves. Big problem is that many people outside of Ireland who are of Irish ancestory, actually know very little what is going on in Ireland or have even visitied. They usually bind themselves to the history books. If you want to do something then come to Ireland. Charlotte plans to that one day. |
Sean |
Jan 14 2004, 08:12 AM
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Russian-Irish Group: Celtic Lyrics Cairde Posts: 257 Joined: 10-April 03 From: Moscow, Russia Member No.: 17 |
LAN', let's guess I'm in Irealand.
1. Which one, Northern or Eire? 2. Whom should I apply to? 3. What kind of help I may offer? (Yes, I can shoot) 4. How much men I may take with me? |
Chucky Armagh |
Jan 14 2004, 09:56 AM
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Daith� Group: Celtic Lyrics Cairde Posts: 173 Joined: 11-July 03 From: Switzerland Member No.: 68 |
This is taken from the Sinn Fein web site...
Friends of Sinn F�in was set up in 1995 and is the party's international support network. It is the organisation through which people outside Ireland can channel support for our party and its policies. The dedicated support of people throughout the world was vital in establishing the peace process in the early 1990s and remains important both in delivering on the Good Friday Agreement and in bringing us closer to our goal of a united Ireland. In this section you will find information about Friends of Sinn F�in US, Canada, Australia and the rest of the world. Please click the button appropriate to your country of residence if you live outside Ireland and wish to support our party |
WorkingClassGermany |
Jan 14 2004, 02:06 PM
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X Group: Member Posts: 21 Joined: 8-January 04 Member No.: 163 |
Well here in Germany people understand that the Irish want to be united. We were more than 40 years divided. Well I for myself will go to Dublin and Westport in June and when I have finished school I'd like to move to Ireland. I was a little afraid Irish people wouldn't like foreigners... but I hope it ain't that way :rolleyes:
Well I've got headaches... read you later *Bring back the glory* B) |
Fianna |
Jan 14 2004, 02:07 PM
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�glach Group: Celtic Lyrics Cairde Posts: 298 Joined: 18-May 03 From: Baile �tha Cliath, Saorst�t Eireann Member No.: 39 |
Yeah, Cairde Sinn F�in is Sinn F�ins international support section, but all it really boils down to is whether you got money to send them or not. I guess if you want to give Gerry and Martin another extension to their house(s), then that's fine. Course all it takes to be a Republican these days is a bit of money...
Sean, your groups depiction of the Provos is very authentic. Look, in the second picture you posted they're abducting a 14 year old boy, who they'll later shoot several times in the leg... Sl�n |
Patrick |
Jan 14 2004, 05:40 PM
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Head of Moderators Group: Celtic Lyrics Moderator Posts: 619 Joined: 29-March 03 From: Mid-west United States Member No.: 5 |
If people outside of Ireland really want to do soemthing, then they can only do it if they actually come to Ireland and see for themselves
Once again LAN, You have your head up your ass. :o The AOH sends Millions of $$ to SF every year. There are also alot of secret societies that contribute more to the cause than we know. Investigate and check around for anyone with ties to any type of radio, TV, or newspaper clout. SPREAD THE WORD. Tell everyone you meet everyday. Try and get airtime on the radio. Try and sell TV people to do a documentary on how the world is being blindfolded while Irelands Sons and Daughters are being murdered by the British war pigs. |
Charlotte |
Jan 14 2004, 06:08 PM
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Unity, Freedom and Peace supporter Group: Celtic Lyrics Moderator Posts: 630 Joined: 29-March 03 From: Paris, France Member No.: 6 |
Fianna. Damn right !
I'm an 18 years old French girl with not a penny in her pocket. I want to help. How? I'm not famous, I have no money and no influence on the world. Yet, I have my will, my beliefs, my voice, my hope, my soul, my heart, my time, my determination, my ability to write (french much better than english, but hey you do with what you have), to speak, etc to offer to the cause. Wish I had more, but all I can do, I'm willing to do it. Do not let me be useless. And if I may quote Bobby Sands himself "Everyone, Republican or otherwise has their own particular part to play. No part is too great or too small, no one is too old or too young to do something." So now stop messing and give me my f*cking part ! |
Sean |
Jan 15 2004, 03:30 AM
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Russian-Irish Group: Celtic Lyrics Cairde Posts: 257 Joined: 10-April 03 From: Moscow, Russia Member No.: 17 |
No fuckin' way! That's me and my godson (guitarist's son) - we are boxin' together against Aengus... |
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