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Buttinsky Posted on: Jun 7 2003, 03:56 PM


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Oro! Se Do Bheatha Bhaile is not original to Sin�ad, but her version is good. The Cassidys do very well with it too. Here's a link to a page on Granuaile (or Grace O'Malley) the subject of the song:

http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~jaymin/sca/Granuail.htm

And a translation of the lyrics:

http://academic.evergreen.edu/w/williams/o...tha_bhaile.html

Celtic-Lyrics has the lyrics too.
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Buttinsky Posted on: May 16 2003, 04:36 PM


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It looks like it has been fixed now. Good catch.
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Buttinsky Posted on: May 15 2003, 04:23 PM


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Took me some time to find the lyrics, but this does look like a good song. Now the next challenge is finding a recording or hearing it sung:

The Soldiers of Cumann na mBan.

All honour to �Glaigh na h�ireann,
All praise to the men of our race,
Who, in day of betrayal and slavery,
Saved Ireland from ruin and disgrace.
But do not forget in your praising,
Of them and the deeds they have done,
Their loyal and true-hearted comrades,
The Soldiers of Cumann na mBan.

Chorus:
They stand for the honour of Ireland,
As their sisters in days that are gone,
And they'll march with their brothers to freedom,
The Soldiers of Cumann na mBan.

All honour to �Glaigh na h�ireann,
All praise to the men of our race,
Who, in day of betrayal and slavery,
Saved Ireland from ruin and disgrace.
But do not forget in your praising,
Of them and the deeds they have done,
Their loyal and true-hearted comrades,
The Soldiers of Cumann na mBan.

No great-hearted daughter of Ireland,
Who died for her sake long ago,
Who stood in the gap of her danger,
Defying the Sassenach foe,
Was ever more gallant or worthy,
Of glory in high sounding rann,
than the comrades of �Glaigh na h�ireann,
The Soldiers of Cumann na mBan!

O, high beat the hearts of our Mother,
The day she had longed for is nigh,
When the sunlight of joy and of freedom,
Shall glow in the eastern sky;
And none shall be honoured more proudly,
That morning by chieftan and clan,
Than the daughters who served in her danger,
The Soldiers of Cumann na mBan!

http://irelandsown.net/women2.html
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Buttinsky Posted on: May 13 2003, 06:28 PM


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I may need to add to this list if I think of others, but here's what came to mind so far:

Young Ned of the Hill
The Tossers

James Connolly
Black 47

Connaught Rangers
Wolfe Tones - but not necessarily that version

I've also been trying to learn more about the singing and songwriting of Dominic Behan, but only hear other people's versions of his songs. Recently heard just a tiny clip of Dominic himself used as music in a play - and always check for the album he recorded in used and rare record stores.
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Buttinsky Posted on: May 12 2003, 11:56 PM


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I can't vouch if this is the version Touchwood sings, but here's lyrics that I've found:

THE MALE FEMALE HIGHWAYMAN

It's of a female highwayman all on a summer's day
She said a frolic I will have and dress in man's array
And I'll ride out along the lea
And hope my true love I shall see
And there I'll test his constancy
With a female highwayman.

cho: With a female highwayman
With a female highwayman
--last two lines of verse--

And so this female highwayman has mounted on a horse
And she's rode out and there she's met her true love, of course
"Stand and deliver sir", she said,
"Or if you don't I'll shoot you dead
Or would you rather come to bed
With a female highwayman?"

So they jogged on together till they came unto an inn
And there they called an ostler and boldly they walked in
They called for liquors of the best,
They went upstairs and got undressed
What happened next can ne'er be guessed
To the female highwayman

For she's pulled off her breeches and likewise her jacket red
She's taken off her velvet cape and lay upon the bed.
Her true love in amazement stands
It seems the end of all his plans
For she has proved to be a man
This female highwayman.

Her true love stands like one amazed and at her did stare
But when the joke he did find out he loudly did declare:
"Fear not my love, it's time to smile"
He threw his clothes down in a pile
He was a female all the while
For the female highwayman
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Buttinsky Posted on: May 12 2003, 06:46 PM


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A southern California band called The Fenians will be doing their version of "Grace" on an upcoming album. If it captures the mood of their live performance of the song, it should be a good recording.

The Fenians

What are your favorite rebel songs?
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Buttinsky Posted on: May 11 2003, 05:47 AM


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With the exception of "Grace," which is about Grace Gifford Plunkett, I've never heard a song honoring the women of the Irish Revolution. And "Grace" is really more of a lament dwelling on the tragic circumstances of her romance and wedding. The awesome Countess Markievicz just had a statue unveiled in her honor. Surely a rousing song or two for her or Maude Gonne must be out there. Or bring it up a few decades: is there a song for Bernadette Devlin? Or is this subject open for tomorrow's songwriters?

Grace Gifford Plunkett

Countess Markievicz
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Buttinsky Posted on: May 11 2003, 05:32 AM


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This is a stretch, but could that lyric be "Kitty lie over" from "What Would You Do If You Married A Soldier"?

QUOTE
Oh, what would you do if you married a soldier?
"What would I do but to follow the gun?"
And what would you do if he died in the ocean?
"What would I do but to marry again?"

A rout the da dee the dum diddly da dum
A rout the da doubt the da diddly da dum
Da da diddly da dum da dee da dum da diddly
da dee da diddly da dum

And what would you do if the kettle boiled over?
"What would I do but to fill it again?"
And what would you do if the cows ate the clover?
"What would I do but to set it again?"

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The praties are dug and the frost is all over
"Kitty, lie over next to the wall"
The summer is come and we're all in the clover
"Kitty, lie over next to the wall"
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Buttinsky Posted on: May 11 2003, 05:05 AM


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Here's a great little essay on Danny Boy that appeared a couple of months ago in a San Francisco paper called "The Irish Herald." The music reviewer Andy Wilkinson always writes a good column, but I remembered this one when I saw your post. I'm glad it was available online, because I wasn't too eager type it up by myself.

http://www.irish-herald.com/stories_mar_arts.html

QUOTE
It was a Saturday afternoon in Ireland's 32. Sunshine streamed in through the front windows, spotlighting the high tables and shadowing the dark corners.

Outside, Geary Boulevard went about its weekend business. The GAA finals were in San Francisco that year and the contingent gathered with a purpose in the 32 that afternoon were in town for the games. At least half were Welsh residents of Florida (interesting story, but a different one, sorry). The pints flowed and the accents mingled until, inevitably, as the afternoon light flattened and yellowed, the singing started. After a few loosening, ensemble efforts from both sides of the Irish Sea, a retired prop forward stood up and sang. His rich valley baritone rang around the now-silent bar as the song we should be sick of stopped another show.

So Glyn from Bethesda joined Elvis, Bing, Sin�ad and the rest of the first-name famous singers to cover Danny Boy. The lyrics sung at a million weddings and wakes were written in 1910 by Fred Weatherly, an English lawyer. Two years later his sister-in-law in America sent him the score to The Derry Air, an obscure traditional tune, and the Danny Boy we know and love (or hate) was born. The search for the source of the tune is a tale in itself-check out Michael Robinson's terrific website http://www.standingstones.com/dannyboy.html)-but it's the lyrics which are the key to the song's popularity.

It's the story of a young man leaving his valley to go to war. The singer anticipates that by the time Danny returns, "dead as I may be." But who is the singer? Over the years it has been argued (by people who worry about this sort of thing) to be Danny's father, mother, wife, girlfriend or (ooh, controversial), boyfriend. The right answer is of course that it's all or any of those. The writer intended it to be ambiguous and the themes-home, departure, love, death, return-are similarly universal. A 'theological consultant' to the Providence (RI) Visitor in 2001, disagreed. Explaining why the song would no longer be allowed at funerals, he called it "emotionally manipulative." At which the universal themes "pot," "kettle" and "black" spring to mind.

Now I know that many of you out there would no more buy a CD with Danny Boy on it than you would wear a "Kiss Me I'm Irish" hat on March 17. I feel much the same about Desperado. Unfortunately they are both on the best album of last year Johnny Cash's The Man Comes Around.

There are four Cash originals, a whole bunch of weird covers and an acoustic guitar sound that will have you inspecting your CD or record to find what technological trick makes it seem like guitarist Randy Scruggs is lying under your coffee table. And then there's that voice. The man must be about 105 by now, and every year is in that voice.



Be sure to check out the Danny Boy history page Wilkinson recommends at

http://www.standingstones.com/dannyboy.html
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Buttinsky Posted on: May 11 2003, 04:54 AM


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Did not have any luck with my usual technique of taking the lyrics quoted and googling on them. BUT - taking the phrase "Buy me a drink and I'll sing you a song" turned up some interesting non-related links.

Here's a bit of punk angst and millennial navel gazing on my own beloved Clement Street in San Francisco:

http://www.fuzzyrobot.com/ventilator/march/drunk.html

Google on "Buy me a drink" and we find the Virgin Prunes - an Irish band that doesn't get enough credit for what it accomplished:

http://virginprunes.com/html/recurring.html

"Buy me a drink, sing me a song" actually appears in Mary Jane's Last Dance - that necrophilia-tinged ballad from Tom Petty:

http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~harel/cgi/pag...?Mary_Jane.html

Fun, but not the answer you wanted. But the song you are looking for is now in on my list. If I do stumble across it or luck out and find the lyrics, I'll post back to here.
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Buttinsky Posted on: Apr 7 2003, 10:53 PM


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I wish I had seen this post sooner. Sorry for the delay. Here's what I found on "Rain and Snow"

RELATES TO: "Nine Hundred Miles"songs: "Reuben's Train," such as the Grayson/Whitter "Train 45"; and �One Hundred Miles� by Flatt and Scruggs.

SIMILAR LYRICS: �Red Apple Juice;� �Red Rocking Chair;� �Sugar Baby;� �Honey Babe Blues;� �Ain�t Got No Honey Baby Now;� �I Ain�t Got No Honey Baby Now;� �Pay Day;� �Storms Are on the Ocean, The�

SOURCES: The earliest version of �Rain and Snow� is found in Sharp and Karpeles' 'English Folk Songs from the Southern Appalachians', #116 (with a tune) as sung by Mrs. Tom Rice at Big Laurel, NC Aug. 18, 1916. In 1963 Obray Ramsay recording on PRESTIGE/INTERNATIONAL 13020, 'Folksongs from the Three Laurels'. Ramsay�s version has been reissued on Shanachie: Roots of the Grateful Dead Various Artists (Released 10/17/95). The Grateful Dead versions are based on Ramsay�s and perhaps was influenced by Peter Rowan, who sang the �Rain and Snow� with Bill Monroe and the Blue Grass Boys in the mid 60�s. The Dead have recorded many live versions of �Cold Rain and Snow� plus one instrumental.

More can gleaned at the website here:

http://www.bluegrassmessengers.com/master/...inandsnow2.html
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Buttinsky Posted on: Apr 7 2003, 05:45 PM


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Oh yes...didn't Petala Clark sing this one in "Finian's Rainbow?" Fred Astaire had quite the dance to go with it too...

Seriously, thanks for the interesting challenge. Here's the lyrics:

Traditional Irish Folk Song
Denis Leary/Chris Phillips

They come over here and they take all our land
They chop off our heads and they boil them in oil
Our children are leaving and we have no heads
We drink and we sing and we drink and we die
We have no heads
We have no heads

They come over here and they chop off our legs
They cut off our hands and put nails in our eyes
O'Grady is dead and O'Hanrahan's gone
We drink and we die and continue to drink
O'Hanrahan
No'Hanrahan

They buried O'Neil down in country Shillhame
The poor children crying and fe dee din de
Hin fle di dinfle
Di din fle de din de
In hey bibble bibble
Hey bibble bibble
Hey fle bibble de
O'Hanrahan
No O'Hanrahan

We drink and we sing
And we drink and we sing
Hey!

We drink and we drive
And we puke and we drink
Hey!

We drink and we fight
And we bleed and we cry
Hey!

We puke and we smoke
And we drink and we die
Hey!


Well, isn't that delightful? I can only hope there's an actual recording with Mr. Leary presiding over the vocals. The website with this and other great lyrics:

http://www.add.no/DenisLeary/lyrics/#Tradi...h%20Folk%20Song
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Buttinsky Posted on: Apr 3 2003, 09:04 PM


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Now then. Let me correct the mistakes of the first post.

The tune from the Long Black Veil album is "Lily of the West." The American War in question COULD BE the War of 1812 (not the Civil War), but there's a reference to "railroad car" which does push it back up to the Civil War or further. It is not specifically a "war" song in the way that "Paddy's Lamentation" is specifically a Civil War song. One of the possible titles of the song is "The Lakes of Pontchartrain." Apparently not Irish, but according to Ready for the Storm, the album by Deanta, this is a "traditional Creole love song, which is commonly mistaken as being of Irish origin." If you acknowledge the strong French influence in Creole culture, we're halfway home. And certainly, the original English ballad "Lily of the West" has strong Irish connections.

(I believe I confused it with "Coast of Malabar", because it had the theme of guy lovin' and leavin' a young, trusting woman. You dogs, you.)

Lyrics:

'Twas on one bright March morning
I bid New Orleans adieu.
And I took the road to Jackson town,
my fortune to renew,
I cursed all foreign money,
no credit could I gain,
Which filled my heart with longing for
the lakes of Pontchartrain.

I stepped on board a railroad car,
beneath the morning sun,
I road the roads till evening,
and I laid me down again,
All strangers there no friends to me,
till a dark girl towards me came,
And I fell in love with a Creole girl,
by the lakes of Pontchartrain.

I said, "My pretty Creole girl,
my money here's no good,
But if it weren't for the alligators,
I'd sleep out in the wood".
"You're welcome here kind stranger,
our house is very plain.
But we never turn a stranger out,
From the lakes of Pontchartrain."

She took me into her mammy's house,
and treated me quite well,
The hair upon her shoulder
in jet black ringlets fell.
To try and paint her beauty,
I'm sure 'twould be in vain,
So handsome was my Creole girl,
By the lakes of Pontchartrain.

I asked her if she'd marry me,
she said it could never be,
For she had got another,
and he was far at sea.
She said that she would wait for him
and true she would remain.
Till he returned for his Creole girl,
By the lakes of Pontchartrain.

So fare thee well my Creole girl,
I never will see you no more,
But I'll ne'er forget your kindness
in the cottage by the shore.
And at each social gathering
a flowing glass I'll raise,
And I'll drink a health to my Creole girl,
And the lakes of Pontchartrain
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Buttinsky Posted on: Mar 30 2003, 10:48 PM


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Heard this song last November at a pub on the Liffey (possibly known as the Chancery) and knew the tune immediately as "On the Coast of Malabar." "Malabar" is one of the songs performed on the Chieftains' Long Black Veil album.

According to the singer at the pub, the lyrics for "Ponchartrain" were written by an Irish soldier in the Confederate Army, making it a rare addition to the many Irish-American songs written by soldiers in the Union Army - immigration largely going to Northern cities of New York, Boston, etc. So I'm intrigued to find the lyrics and possibly a recording.

Additionally, if there are any other notable tunes that became new world citizens with new lyrics out there, I'd be grateful for the information. I've already spotted the classic "Spancil Hill" which I've known all my life as "Ghost Riders in the Sky."
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