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Posted by: Charlotte Nov 4 2005, 01:00 PM

Thatcher, woman of the year. Would you believe that?

Posted by: Fanstyg Nov 4 2005, 01:19 PM

What??... who's made her woman of the year?.. Can't be anyone with an ounce of sanity in their head... Probably the same person that will make George W Bush man of the year also...

Sl�n,

Fanstyg

Posted by: WeeIrishDevil Nov 4 2005, 01:27 PM

The thing is .. that woman of all women I hate the most. Her policies killed quite a few of our people. I could see where the brits would say she was woman of the year .. and maybe anybody else in bed with the brits ... but in �ire she'll never be woman of the year ... just isn't possible, not with the true Oirish anyhoo. They can say she's woman of the year .... and a can see why they'd think so for them ... but those very reasons they say she's woman of the year that make me think she'd be best served as dead woman of the year.

Posted by: Charlotte Nov 4 2005, 01:50 PM

The Mc Cartney sisters were invited as well to get the same award. They refused to go when they learnt Thatcher would be there too.

http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/03/uthatch.xml

Posted by: WeeFrankee Nov 5 2005, 11:58 AM

Why would ANYONE want her for woman of the year, she was a very harsh woman with silly arguements and i particulary hate her blink.gif does anyone actually agree with the things she done and wanted?

Posted by: Olorin Nov 7 2005, 12:10 PM

She's still alive?? Well I guess zombies really can't die.

Actually, I can't see why she's Woman of the year either. Methinks she should be Man of the year (she did, after all, help crush the godless communism and Eastern block and make the whole fanatic freemasonry in Windsor immensly happy).

What I don't understand is, why this year? What has she done? The past deeds, right, but whay this year? Couldn't it have waited for another year so she coul invent a cure for cancer or a bird flu or something?

[/sarcasm]


Posted by: Patrick Nov 8 2005, 11:03 AM

Woman of the year? I think even God will shake his head about that. The only way she could have won that title is if she was the only one running for it.(and the only one voting as well)

Correct me if I am wrong but when she was PM, wasnt she the one that made the comment about the hunger strike "Let them Die"?
Woman of the year? Tony Blair would make a better 'woman' of the year.

Posted by: Tom McB Nov 13 2005, 04:33 PM

QUOTE(Patrick @ Nov 8 2005, 05:03 AM) *

Correct me if I am wrong but when she was PM, wasnt she the one that made the comment about the hunger strike "Let them Die"?

Mrs T made various comments about the hunger strikes- there were two after all.

Nowhere can I find any such comment
http://larkspirit.com/hungerstrikes/1981.html

I suspect that you are confusing your hunger strikes. The "let them die" comment was used when the Irish Free state smashed the first hunger strikes.

http://republican-news.org/archive/1998/October15/15hist.html

Posted by: ChrisyBhoy Nov 17 2005, 10:05 PM

Margaret Thatcher is the Devils mistress. I firmly believe that.

Posted by: Christophe Nov 17 2005, 11:13 PM

QUOTE(ChrisyBhoy @ Nov 17 2005, 04:05 PM) *

Margaret Thatcher is the Devils mistress. I firmly believe that.


That's for sure! ohmy.gif

Posted by: Tom McB Nov 26 2005, 10:09 PM

Patrick has had 3 weeks and has been unable to substantiate his comment dry.gif dry.gif

Maggie was a fine wumman- had more balls than Bill Clinton the paedo ph34r.gif

Posted by: Patrick Nov 27 2005, 12:30 PM

Tom, If you havent noticed...I am ignoring you. You can spew all the trash you wish. Thatcher should be charged with war crimes just like Bush and Blair should be. As far as Clinton, He had built up relationships between America and Ireland alot more than your Thatcher ever could/would.

Posted by: Donegal62 Nov 27 2005, 01:51 PM

Thatcher was (and probably still is ) very much like her "spitting image" puppet !
Spot on ! laugh.gif

Posted by: WeeIrishDevil Nov 29 2005, 06:05 AM

Well, hiya Donegal smile.gif Just seen you were sorta new to the forum and thought I'd say hiya wink.gif Cead Mile Failte biggrin.gif

Posted by: Donegal62 Dec 3 2005, 07:57 PM

QUOTE(WeeIrishDevil @ Nov 29 2005, 06:05 AM) *

Well, hiya Donegal smile.gif Just seen you were sorta new to the forum and thought I'd say hiya wink.gif Cead Mile Failte biggrin.gif

Hi there wee fella ! yep kinda new, can only get online a couple o' times a week but glad i found this forum.

Posted by: WeeIrishDevil Dec 5 2005, 05:52 PM

Sorry, for some reason I didn't see the response ... as for the 'wee fella' bit .... erm ... ummmm .... a wee lass mebbe wink.gif although a might be wee in some respects, I'm no so wee in spirit, nor certain other bits of me lol but hiya none the less tongue.gif hope you do enjoy your time at the forum and once again ... sorry for the ages it took to respond as a didn't see the response. smile.gif

Posted by: Donegal62 Dec 6 2005, 06:31 PM

QUOTE(WeeIrishDevil @ Dec 5 2005, 05:52 PM) *

Sorry, for some reason I didn't see the response ... as for the 'wee fella' bit .... erm ... ummmm .... a wee lass mebbe wink.gif although a might be wee in some respects, I'm no so wee in spirit, nor certain other bits of me lol but hiya none the less tongue.gif hope you do enjoy your time at the forum and once again ... sorry for the ages it took to respond as a didn't see the response. smile.gif

Oops sorry about that ! wacko.gif No probs about reply.. like i said i can only access internet a few times a week. thanks for the welcome !

Posted by: WeeIrishDevil Dec 6 2005, 09:07 PM

Cead Mile Failte smile.gif Just outa curiousity ... are ye from Donegal? if so then we might have a few other things in common, as I spent loads of time there as a weean wink.gif Teelin to be exact. Anyhoo .. hope to hear from you again soon smile.gif

Posted by: Donegal62 Dec 7 2005, 12:30 PM

QUOTE(WeeIrishDevil @ Dec 6 2005, 09:07 PM) *

Cead Mile Failte smile.gif Just outa curiousity ... are ye from Donegal? if so then we might have a few other things in common, as I spent loads of time there as a weean wink.gif Teelin to be exact. Anyhoo .. hope to hear from you again soon smile.gif

Aye yep i was born in Ballyshannon nr Bundoran. Family moved to the U.K. when i was wee. Still have some family in Letterkenny. Like to visit "home" at least once a year. biggrin.gif

Posted by: WeeIrishDevil Dec 7 2005, 03:07 PM

I've only been to Ballyshannon for the International Folk and Traditional Music Festival. But I've been to Bundoran at the strand. I've this thing for cliffs and the sea. Even as a weean I was always ... ALWAYS in trouble because I'd run off into the sea. I scared mum so many times, I didn't think she'd ever be able to breathe again. I loved to swim, and didn't care where I was. Of course being surrounded by mountains and hills would make it even more of a place for me. Wish I would have visited more often. Being from Derry, I spent loads of time down there, but at the same time, not nearly enough. Everything there was peaceful and quiet. I didn't have the same kinda problems there as I did at Derry. Of course I'll be visitin the Maiden City again next year, so I might just visit Donegal wink.gif

Teileann only had two things to do ... fishing and music, which just happen to be two of my favourite things in the world smile.gif Da was a fisherman ... anyhoo ... it's kinda south of An Charraig. While there I also fancied just sittin at Sliabh a'Liag. But perhaps you know now why I love OUR music wink.gif Anyhoo .. perhaps we've met or will meet someday wink.gif

Posted by: Donegal62 Dec 10 2005, 06:05 PM

QUOTE(WeeIrishDevil @ Dec 7 2005, 03:07 PM) *

I've only been to Ballyshannon for the International Folk and Traditional Music Festival. But I've been to Bundoran at the strand. I've this thing for cliffs and the sea. Even as a weean I was always ... ALWAYS in trouble because I'd run off into the sea. I scared mum so many times, I didn't think she'd ever be able to breathe again. I loved to swim, and didn't care where I was. Of course being surrounded by mountains and hills would make it even more of a place for me. Wish I would have visited more often. Being from Derry, I spent loads of time down there, but at the same time, not nearly enough. Everything there was peaceful and quiet. I didn't have the same kinda problems there as I did at Derry. Of course I'll be visitin the Maiden City again next year, so I might just visit Donegal wink.gif

Teileann only had two things to do ... fishing and music, which just happen to be two of my favourite things in the world smile.gif Da was a fisherman ... anyhoo ... it's kinda south of An Charraig. While there I also fancied just sittin at Sliabh a'Liag. But perhaps you know now why I love OUR music wink.gif Anyhoo .. perhaps we've met or will meet someday wink.gif

Ooh yeah the Music is grand ! I remember building ginormous sand castles on the strand at bundoran when i was a nipper, Never much of a one for the fishing, but don't mind eating them ! biggrin.gif Yeah would be cool to bump into each other, should be back home in spring time for a yomp in the mountains.... cool cool.gif

Posted by: WeeIrishDevil Dec 11 2005, 07:11 AM

Ahhhhh the mountains .... gotta love that feeling you get when at the top. I dunno why, but for some reason, when at the top of some mountains, you've this sense of (for me anyhoo) euphoria. When at Belfast, you can go up cave hill ... it's no that big .. but still, at the top you just feel as if you're in the heavens. My ideal place would be surrounded by all the things I love ... mountains, sea, cliffs, woods, and a wee glen. I'm more of a solitary sort these days. I might make friends easily, more easily than some and without effort, but the thing is, I don't want to be surrounded by mates. There's quite a few I'd love to meet, but at the same time, there's quite a few that I wish I had never met. Being here in America has it's ups and downs ... more downs than ups, but I'm away from all the shite so it's better in that respect. There are many lovely places here and in some areas the people are even nice. The only problem I have with America is the pervs that live close to where I'm at. I have the same problem all the time, and hence why I'd just prefer to live in the mountains somewhere. I wanted to travel to Montana here as I was told it was the place to go if I wanted to live in the mountains, but I've not yet decided to move there for the remainder of my time here. If I did, I'd have to make sure that I could get a job close to where I'd be living. Verizon doesn't have any places to work there at Montana. I was also told I couldn't take the Ford Explorer (as that's what I'm driving while here) there to Montana without a few adjustments. I've already got the tyres for that kinda climate, as they have these wee holes in the tyres, where I guess they put things that help you move through ice and snow better. They also said there'd need to be other stuff done to it for driving in the mountains. I'm slightly mechanically inclined, but I'm ignorant of many things where changing those kinda things are involved. Seems like loads of work and money just to move to a place that costs loads anyhoo mellow.gif *sighs*

Anyway ... home is where the heart is so they say and my heart always will be in Eire wub.gif I've thought so many times on staying here, but more and more I feel sorta out of place. I love the job I do and I'm enjoying learning all there is to know about it here, but I'm starting to miss home and a couple of people I find it difficult, at best, to be away from. Looks like I'll be back in March, which is just enough time to finish training and work a while. I'd love to be able to take some of these ideas home. There's just one thing I don't like about the mobiles here .... those that use a sim card don't get all the incoming calls free ... they have to pay for those same as everything else. I thought that was nuts. See, at Belfast, with a mobile, if you ring me, I don't even have to have money at the phone ... I can get as many calls in as I want and takes no time, but here in America .. shees ... you pay for each of those. I suppose there's people on a post paid account where they get a bill and pay monthly and they have plans with free INcalling .. but not many. And to ring someone internationally from a mobile here is nuts. For a fiver I can get 25 min mobile to mobile through Orange (calling from Belfast to CHicago area) ... but when I use a mobile here to ring home, damn .. it's summit like $39.75 for 25 minutes. Needless to say, I buy these phone cards and use them and ring from a landline. This way I get 317 min for $20, mobile to mobile. Verizon does say it's free if you ring or someone rings you from another Verizon phone though.

Ok enough education for now .. can't wait to get home and can't wait to visit the Maiden City and get back Donegal way wink.gif

Posted by: Donegal62 Dec 11 2005, 05:30 PM

QUOTE(WeeIrishDevil @ Dec 11 2005, 07:11 AM) *

Ahhhhh the mountains .... gotta love that feeling you get when at the top. I dunno why, but for some reason, when at the top of some mountains, you've this sense of (for me anyhoo) euphoria. When at Belfast, you can go up cave hill ... it's no that big .. but still, at the top you just feel as if you're in the heavens. My ideal place would be surrounded by all the things I love ... mountains, sea, cliffs, woods, and a wee glen. I'm more of a solitary sort these days. I might make friends easily, more easily than some and without effort, but the thing is, I don't want to be surrounded by mates. There's quite a few I'd love to meet, but at the same time, there's quite a few that I wish I had never met. Being here in America has it's ups and downs ... more downs than ups, but I'm away from all the shite so it's better in that respect. There are many lovely places here and in some areas the people are even nice. The only problem I have with America is the pervs that live close to where I'm at. I have the same problem all the time, and hence why I'd just prefer to live in the mountains somewhere. I wanted to travel to Montana here as I was told it was the place to go if I wanted to live in the mountains, but I've not yet decided to move there for the remainder of my time here. If I did, I'd have to make sure that I could get a job close to where I'd be living. Verizon doesn't have any places to work there at Montana. I was also told I couldn't take the Ford Explorer (as that's what I'm driving while here) there to Montana without a few adjustments. I've already got the tyres for that kinda climate, as they have these wee holes in the tyres, where I guess they put things that help you move through ice and snow better. They also said there'd need to be other stuff done to it for driving in the mountains. I'm slightly mechanically inclined, but I'm ignorant of many things where changing those kinda things are involved. Seems like loads of work and money just to move to a place that costs loads anyhoo mellow.gif *sighs*

Anyway ... home is where the heart is so they say and my heart always will be in Eire wub.gif I've thought so many times on staying here, but more and more I feel sorta out of place. I love the job I do and I'm enjoying learning all there is to know about it here, but I'm starting to miss home and a couple of people I find it difficult, at best, to be away from. Looks like I'll be back in March, which is just enough time to finish training and work a while. I'd love to be able to take some of these ideas home. There's just one thing I don't like about the mobiles here .... those that use a sim card don't get all the incoming calls free ... they have to pay for those same as everything else. I thought that was nuts. See, at Belfast, with a mobile, if you ring me, I don't even have to have money at the phone ... I can get as many calls in as I want and takes no time, but here in America .. shees ... you pay for each of those. I suppose there's people on a post paid account where they get a bill and pay monthly and they have plans with free INcalling .. but not many. And to ring someone internationally from a mobile here is nuts. For a fiver I can get 25 min mobile to mobile through Orange (calling from Belfast to CHicago area) ... but when I use a mobile here to ring home, damn .. it's summit like $39.75 for 25 minutes. Needless to say, I buy these phone cards and use them and ring from a landline. This way I get 317 min for $20, mobile to mobile. Verizon does say it's free if you ring or someone rings you from another Verizon phone though.

Ok enough education for now .. can't wait to get home and can't wait to visit the Maiden City and get back Donegal way wink.gif

Wow that is tight paying for incoming calls.... ouch ! Thank ye gods for e-mail eh ?
biggrin.gif Thats grand you'll be back in march.. just in time for spring (hopefully, y'know global warming and all that ! ) If i'm about then i'll let ya know, maybe take in a hill or two !

Posted by: WeeIrishDevil Dec 12 2005, 05:32 PM

E-mail and voicechat ... gotta love em both wink.gif saves money via post as well as, phone lol I use, always have, the pc instead of conventional methods of keeping in contact with someone .. seemed much easier. Anyhoo ... would be grand to take in a hill or two while we're both there wink.gif Closer to time, or once I'm there, might just have to give you the mobile number for when am home smile.gif

Posted by: Donegal62 Dec 16 2005, 06:34 PM

QUOTE(WeeIrishDevil @ Dec 12 2005, 05:32 PM) *

E-mail and voicechat ... gotta love em both wink.gif saves money via post as well as, phone lol I use, always have, the pc instead of conventional methods of keeping in contact with someone .. seemed much easier. Anyhoo ... would be grand to take in a hill or two while we're both there wink.gif Closer to time, or once I'm there, might just have to give you the mobile number for when am home smile.gif

That'll be grand ! Let you know plans nearer the time wink.gif

Posted by: GermanGlenfiddich Dec 17 2005, 12:57 PM

don't forget the war about the falkland isles...hundreds dead for sheep and two thousands brits who suffered more from the war than they would have from argentinian rule...THAT's modern imperialism

Posted by: Tom McB Jan 1 2006, 12:35 AM

QUOTE(GermanGlenfiddich @ Dec 17 2005, 06:57 AM) *

don't forget the war about the falkland isles...hundreds dead for sheep and two thousands brits who suffered more from the war than they would have from argentinian rule...THAT's modern imperialism


Naw- It's the self determination of people as described in the UN Charter.

And Maggie- God bless her, brought down a Fascist Junta who had the backing of the yankee CIA.

Posted by: Patrick Jan 3 2006, 12:33 AM

I so tire of 'Thatcher Crossdressers' complaining about their tiny penis/large ego issues. laugh.gif

Posted by: Charlotte Jan 3 2006, 10:20 AM

Tom Mc B,
Take care! "Maggie God bless her" is not the kind of thing anyone wise would say and particularly not on this website. Therefore forgive me if I use censorship on that one.

Posted by: Tom McB Jan 3 2006, 10:50 PM

Charlotte why would you censor the fact that she brought down fascists? You may not like her, nor her policies.
Surely though, given the slaughter of leftists- the disappeared in Argentina- slaughtered by the Junta and CIA, any right thinking person would have been pleased that Maggie brought down the Fascists?

Patrick, you seem to have issues about penises. dry.gif See a psychotherapist laugh.gif
It's a sad attempt to avoid dealing with serious issues of American imperialism in South America.

Posted by: Patrick Jan 3 2006, 11:44 PM

(Oh how I will dread even replying to this) dry.gif
Tom, If you take a close look at Charlottes reply, She even put in parenthesis what she was censoring. It is so very typically British of you to only see what you want to see and try and emphasize on what might try and make people think is important. She censored your remark about Thatcher! She was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that you might have a clue about this being an Irish Republican website. I have learned from experience that TRYING to rationalize with a 'Brit' only ends up in frustration.
As far as myself and my penis, We are both healthy, LARGE, and happy. I would have to guess that you and your "small penis/large ego" will have to dress up like Ol Maggie and try and boss people around for kicks.

As far as editing your own reply, It doesnt change the fact that you are trying to spew your British BS on an Irish Republican website.

Posted by: paddy Jan 4 2006, 03:20 PM

I've got a big question for ya, lads. Is she even human? How can a walking corpse be a woman of the year?

Posted by: Tom McB Jan 4 2006, 03:31 PM

QUOTE(Patrick @ Jan 3 2006, 05:44 PM) *

(Oh how I will dread even replying to this) dry.gif
Tom, If you take a close look at Charlottes reply, She even put in parenthesis what she was censoring.

Actually she used strikethrough rather than parenthesis. A small point but exactitude can be important.

Patrick your continued fixation with penises is indeed remarkable- are you sure that you're on the correct website? laugh.gif
TBH this seems a tactic to avoid rational debate. dry.gif

To the substantial point- your charge of
QUOTE
trying to spew your British BS on an Irish Republican website.


Which particular post of mine in this thread contains bullshit please?

QUOTE(paddy @ Jan 4 2006, 09:20 AM) *

I've got a big question for ya, lads. Is she even human? How can a walking corpse be a woman of the year?

A touch unkind perhaps- those of us who have seen loved ones in the final stages of Alzheimers will know what you mean.
It did seem a strange nomination, God alone knows why it was made now- a bit like Holywood giving an ageing actor a lifetime's achievement award.

Posted by: paddy Jan 4 2006, 04:02 PM

Tom I wasn't talking about Alzeimers I was talking 'bout the way she looks for Jesus's sake!

Posted by: Christophe Jan 4 2006, 05:52 PM

QUOTE(Tom McB @ Jan 3 2006, 04:50 PM) *

It's a sad attempt to avoid dealing with serious issues of American imperialism in South America.


This is quite a funny one: A Brit lecturing an American about imperialism... wacko.gif
Difference between the two here is the latter doesn't agree with his country's policy and the former does...

Posted by: Tom McB Jan 4 2006, 07:55 PM

QUOTE(paddy @ Jan 4 2006, 10:02 AM) *

Tom I wasn't talking about Alzeimers I was talking 'bout the way she looks for Jesus's sake!


Ach I'm sure you were not, it's jist that the look goes wie the condition.

QUOTE(Christophe @ Jan 4 2006, 11:52 AM) *

QUOTE(Tom McB @ Jan 3 2006, 04:50 PM) *

It's a sad attempt to avoid dealing with serious issues of American imperialism in South America.


This is quite a funny one: A Brit lecturing an American about imperialism... wacko.gif
Difference between the two here is the latter doesn't agree with his country's policy and the former does...

Wrong on both counts- I admit my country's errors of the past, Christ knows there were many, ( a bit like the belgian congo ), fortunately my country got rid of it's empire. America is expanding its Imperium. I have yet to see Patrick condemn the slaughter of the Native Americans, Indeed he chided me for using that phrase.
Nor have I seen him stand up against Yankee policy of support for the Zionists. Nor condemn Yankee intervention in Chile, Brazil, Nicaragua......................

Posted by: Christophe Jan 5 2006, 10:11 AM

QUOTE(Tom McB @ Jan 4 2006, 01:55 PM) *

QUOTE(paddy @ Jan 4 2006, 10:02 AM) *

Tom I wasn't talking about Alzeimers I was talking 'bout the way she looks for Jesus's sake!


Ach I'm sure you were not, it's jist that the look goes wie the condition.

QUOTE(Christophe @ Jan 4 2006, 11:52 AM) *

QUOTE(Tom McB @ Jan 3 2006, 04:50 PM) *

It's a sad attempt to avoid dealing with serious issues of American imperialism in South America.


This is quite a funny one: A Brit lecturing an American about imperialism... wacko.gif
Difference between the two here is the latter doesn't agree with his country's policy and the former does...

Wrong on both counts- I admit my country's errors of the past, Christ knows there were many, ( a bit like the belgian congo ), fortunately my country got rid of it's empire. America is expanding its Imperium. I have yet to see Patrick condemn the slaughter of the Native Americans, Indeed he chided me for using that phrase.
Nor have I seen him stand up against Yankee policy of support for the Zionists. Nor condemn Yankee intervention in Chile, Brazil, Nicaragua......................


"my country got rid of it's empire" Shouldn't the phrase "The oppressed peoples got rid of my country's (military) presence and meddling?" be more appropriate, you think?
"I have yet to see Patrick condemn the slaughter of the Native Americans, Indeed he chided me for using that phrase." I don't know anything about that, but I would regard it natural to condemn ALL forms of imperialism/colonization...
"Nor have I seen him stand up against Yankee policy of support for the Zionists. Nor condemn Yankee intervention in Chile, Brazil, Nicaragua......................"
You can't sincerely demand of him he stands up for everything his country has done and does wrong? By the way, this forum tends to deal about one particular country's situation. I don't think we're supposed do discuss the whole imperialist history of the world's countries? blink.gif
Example: Did I ever condemn Belgium/Leopold II for the past in Congo in here? No. Why should I, it isn't the place for it. But of course I do condemn it, that's natural.

Posted by: Tom McB Jan 5 2006, 05:18 PM

Aye the choice of language- in some cases, Kenya, India etc you're quite correct, In others like Australia, Canada, New Zealand that language would be incorrect.

My point about imperialism is that, like you I acknowledge that it has brought much harm and some small good.

My view of the world situation is that the oppression of peoples and denial of democracy is wrong, whether in Ireland, Nicaragua, or Palestine. The view that the political struggle in Ireland is as one with the struggle against oppressors elsewhere is a strong one here in Scotland. It chimes with the views of Sinn Fein too.
Those on this site who have seen Glasgow Celtic play will agree that as well and Irish tricolours, fans also bring Palestinian and Basque flags to games.

Posted by: Bj�rn Jan 6 2006, 12:24 PM

QUOTE(Patrick @ Jan 4 2006, 12:44 AM) *
As far as editing your own reply, It doesnt change the fact that you are trying to spew your British BS on an Irish Republican website.

For the record: This is a Celtic lyrics website.

Posted by: Patrick Jan 12 2006, 03:02 PM

Sorry Bjorn, I guess I got a little carried away wink.gif

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